Paid not received item

[burdock]

I won an auction on 3-17-08 paid for it on 3-19-08 had not received item as of today but yesterday got an message from seller stating Oh man that is the second time this has happened and it happens all the time the USPS costs him 1000.00 of dollars. Well to make a long story short i tell his story sound fishy because it tells me he shipped it a day before i paid for the item its insured so we would have to file a claim if i do not receive it. No delivery confirmation because it cost .65 cents more than the 14.00 he charged me for shipping plus the 4.00 for insurance for Priority flat rate box from his address to 18433 which i looked up and it was I think 8.40 not sure. I am waiting for a response from the seller to i guess just get a refund and I think the problem is nobody else bid on the item and he never even shipped it so I would not get the item and just get a refund because i only paid a third of what the item is worth. I for the live of me do not know why somebody would not ship delivery confirmation just to have a record of the shipment to protect seller and buyer, that has me puzzled also. well I will wait and see if i get a credit, but i really wanted the Logitech 880 remote. 10 days tomorrow since shipped maybe it will still show up Thanks for listing

[admin]

burdock,

Can you open a ticket at the below url, so we can assist you with this issue. Please enter it as a transaction issue, and supply the required info.

http://helpdesk.webidz.com

[tdmorgan]

Who was the seller???

[burdock]

iTech2008

[tdmorgan]

Read my post about this guy.

Real piece of work.

Why don't you file a negative vote on his reputation?

[burdock]

I am waiting to see if I get the item or my money back them he is going to have nice negative feedback and I hope he is banned from this site.

[tdmorgan]

He also has a storefront at other auction sites, and one at pricegrabber. I think he uses the name Techmaven.

[burdock]

Yes i have seen it other places or him or his name

[burdock]

Seller was a victim of circumstance all is well received item today brand new

[katandron1]

Glad everything worked out for you burdock.

[Lanascountry]

So happy it all worked out, Burdock..I can't stand to see anyone
lose their money. (Especially in very hard times.) Thank you so much
for letting us know the outcome!! :)

[burdock]

Ya I feel as if it was a problem with shipping or maybe not but the seller made good with a different remote and it still was a very good deal and he was very nice about all the things I said to him also so it all worked out and hopefully no one will have any problems in the future with this seller.

[elgato]

Well the saga turned out Ok and I'm happy for both the seller and the buyer. :D

Seller must have used snail mail though.

[tdmorgan]

Stay away from this guy --- iTech2008 --

Contact Information Removed


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[mj-trading]

Morgan!

This wasn't a good idea to list that Public!!

[katandron1]

tdmorgan.......
We all know about this seller already, what you have to remember is....as much personal information as you have on him, you are a buyer of his and he has just as much personal information of yours. Would you appriciate your name, address, and telephone number posted in a public forum.......I hope Admin can at least block out that much of this post.

[unclejunk1]

As much as I feel sorry for anyone that paid and has not received their item, we must control our feelings and redirect it in the proper way. Ok you paid. So how did you pay, check, money order, online? If you sent cash you have no brain at all. Check or money order goes by mail - contact your local Post Master and report to a Posal Inspector, if you cannot stop payment first. Online, payments can be reversed. May take time but you can do it. But before you do anything, have you checked to see if the person is still alive? People get sick, they die, they go to jail. Dig a little before you go public. If you feel you must go public - talk to an attorney first so when they file suit against you, you have somone to defend you in court.

[admin]

We ask that members refrain from posting contact information publicly. Although there is issues with this seller that need to be resolved, this contact information could be a case of identity theft. If so, the information listed could be used to further harm that person. By filing a report with the authorities listed, this can be addressed and investigated by them. We also advised to file a chargeback, so you can recoup funds paid.

[sniperace66]

he also got his peronal info here to think it should be removed to
http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=5015&page=2

[tdmorgan]

I am not a business, therefore I expect to have a higher level of privacy than this guy. I am sorry that I had to post the information, but this guy needs to stop preying on people. How else do we get him to stop? His name and address relates to his professional activities, not personal ones.

My personal information has no reason to be released. I am trying to protect people from what may be fraud. if it is not, then I will request that all information be removed.

[tdmorgan]

PS - Anything that the owners of this site want to delete, the certainly have the power to do so.

[sniperace66]

tdmorgan there are laws that say that you can not give out private information to the public over the internet with out such person giveing you permission .

what the admin was doing by deleting the info you have posted was to protect him and not only him but you to

This person could sue the admin and not only him but you to. so admin not only protected himself but you to.
but mainly you because admin has a disclaimer on the site

[tdmorgan]

First of all, there is no law about releasing information in the Internet. The 1st Amendment of the Constitution gives us the right to pretty much say what we want. There are potential civil penalties for libel, but only if information is untrue or thought to be untrue.

This guy has a website at http://techmaven.biz/home.

It has the same information. Therefore, he has already made his information PUBLIC.

I suggest that no one buy from him. I think he is unethical.

[sniperace66]

Please don't tell me about the law i use to own and run a forum site like this and i know what iam telling you

before you post something like you did better read the laws first

heres a link to the privacy laws

http://www.netatty.com/privacy/index.html

[katandron1]

tdmorgan........
You are correct in a way.......If I were your seller, my business information is the same as my personal information i.e. Name, address, telephone number, as I run my business out of my home. How do you know his business is totally seperate from his home?
The correct way to have addressed this is to have filled out a ticket and had Admin do some investigating.
That my friend is how you get scum eliminated off of the site so that others will not fall victim.
Also, by filling out the ticket with Admin, he would have been better able to assist you with proof of a scam (upon his investigation, and suspension of the seller) should you have needed it with the credit card company.
And if you had bothered looking up that seller when you received the email from Admin, you would have seen that the seller is no longer registered, therefore can no longer make any more scam sells.
And according to your theory, If I were to be able to obtain your information, then I would be able to post it anywhere on the net, because it's my God given right to be able to do so. And Admin would be able to post all of our personal information, because he wants to. There is a line between what is legally correct to do and what is morally correct to do.

[katandron1]

You originally posted his information on 3-29-08 on a different thread.
You were advised then to fill out a ticket for Admin to investigate his actions/or lack thereof.
And then posted it a second time in a totally different thread.
Also, the email that you posted that Admin sent you........did you notice the line that reads.......
WeBidz.com is fully owned by SageFox Inc. All contents and attachments of this e-mail are considered confidential and proprietary to SageFox Inc.
Note the considered confidential statement, and yet you chose to copy and paste the entire email in a public forum.

We are very sorry that this has happened to you, but there is a correct way to handle things, and this was not the way.

[tdmorgan]

I iterate that the site admin has free reign to delete or change anything they want to.

"Individual states specifically prohibit defamation... Defamation consists of false and unprivileged publication which results in economic damages. Financial loss is not necessary where the statement implies that a person is a criminal or has an unpleasant disease, or which injures a person in respect to his other office, profession, or business. A judge in Texas issued an injunction to stop defamatory posting by an Internet user."

Defamation implies the spread of false information.

What has been said that is false?

I stand behind itech2008 being removed from this site and I hope he never tries to scam anyone ever.

If he is not a scammer, then great. Maybe he only has poor business sense.

I will never do business with anyone who tries to hide their business in any way. Business is meant to be open.

[sniperace66]

Iam not taking about crimail law civil law i didn't say he have you put in jail

This person could sue the admin and not only him but you to. so admin not only protected himself but you to.
but mainly you because admin has a disclaimer on the site

[tdmorgan]

Suing is different than being liable. Anyone can sue anyone else, regardless of whether they have standing to do so.

I don't think the admin would lose in a suit if someone out of their control (me) posts anything to the site. I did not want to provide any information against itech, but their inability to deal with an honest transaction made me feel like I had to vent. So I posted truthful information, including copies of emails that were passed back and forth. This is so the reader could make up their own mind.

I hope I protected someone in the process.

[sniperace66]

ya and set yourself up for a possible lawsuit if he saw what you posted weather he had it posted on his
site he can do that its his site. but that does not give you the right to post it on every site you can without
his permission. you will lose in a lawsuit if he decides to push it. (hope he don't)

Iam in no way backing his action as far as a seller but it could of been delt with better on your part.

[katandron1]

The BBB in his state would come to mind.

[tdmorgan]

Methinks you need to re-read the law. Public information is public information, and no one has the right to limit its dissemination. But i digress. I am going to remove myself from this site. Thanks for reading! :cool:

[admin]

If a business or person decides to post their contact information publicly, that is their choice to do so. When members enter their contact info into our site, we have the responsibility to make sure their contact info is protected. Contact info is released to parties involved in transactions, for the purpose of completing transactions only. If we allowed this information to be relased in our forums, this could be considered a breach of trust... and could possibly violate laws. I am fairly certain WeBidz would be able to fight and win any suits against us for such issues, but we are more concerned about the privacy of our members info.

Under some circumstances, I personally would love to see this info posted. But we need to stick to specific guidelines, to be sure all our members information is protected. Say this is an issue of identity theft, the victim could possibly suffer further damages from such posts. In the beginning we never know all the facts, so it is best to be rational from the start.

As we have suggested previously, filing of criminal complaints is a great avenue, which will help out everyone in the online community. If you paid via credit card and get your money back by filing a chargeback, that is great... But what about the next victim?

[burdock]

Boy this thread went to 4 pages and i got my item not the one i won the auction on but an item of equal value for a good price i was temped to bid on another item by this guy and i am glad my better half said no (wife) and got my item as promised he just sold the 880 for to low of a price and tried to get away with it. Thanks all I will have to list some new items here in a couple of days.

[2005Renegade]

First, he is back here listing as techmavenco...

Also, he is pulling the same scams on Overstock Auctions - he got me there for a D-Link router that was never delivered.

[katandron1]

Thanks for the information Renegade......
I will forward this to Admin so that he may deal with this.
I have created a ticket on this, and Admin will be looking into it.
Thanks again for the report.

[Lanascountry]

Got it Renegade! Thanks :D

[katandron1]

Thanks Boss and Lana for the quick action.
Thanks again Renegade for the report.
Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing when people sign up, who they are.
It takes the work of the entire community to help take care of these scammers and get them out of here.

[admin]

Thanks for this report. We will investigate this immediately, then take appropriate actions.

[2005Renegade]

Thanks to everyone...Wish I could get Overstock to be this responsive...

[katandron1]

We do have the best (Admin) in the business Renegade.
That's simply my opinion though.

[2005Renegade]

I would agree with that...

He's got 40 similar complaints under 2 usernames on the O and all they can say is that all they do is "provide a venue for person-to-person sales" and that they cant/wont take action.

[mj-trading]

Never did like Overstock! There just there to take your money too!

[Lanascountry]

I did very well at overstock and sold hundreds of items..BUT..they are really into their
retail sales and like ebay, do NOT care about sellers. They started out almost free and
everytime you turned around more $..Also so many things we take for granted here at
WB there NEVER have been done! :confused: (Overstock could have been superior, but
have very BAD management, (IMHO))