It's all about the bids

[piazzapizza]

Well, I am really starting to wonder. Been listing cards on WeBidz for 3 months now. Yes, it's great that there are no listing fees, but there are also no sales!! That defeats the whole purpose of creating a listing. I also find it very odd that I seem to be getting many views of my listings, but in all that time, not one of the viewers or potential customers has asked me if I have other cards from that set they may be looking for, something that happened quite frequently over on the bay. Also find it odd that the Topps Heritage cards or the Turkey red cards, which I know are very popular in the hobby, have not generated a single bid or question.
Besides that fact, I had also commented that I refreshed the home page 75 times hoping to see my store in the featured store spot, to no avail. I did find it remarkable though, that there were many stores that did show up as featured, with maybe only 1 or 2 items. Now here is the odd twist. I expect Lana, kat, mj and admin to respond to this post. How about some of the other 20,000 registered users out there. Are any of you experiencing zero bids, zero questions?

[Lanascountry]

Phil,
I don't know what to say, I just don't want you to feel ignored, I do feel for you!:confused:

[piazzapizza]

It is not a feeling of being ignored at all Lana. There are some very pertinent points I make, important questions, that I have brought up several times. But somehow, the status quo continues. Do you not agree that with 141 listings, over a period of 3 months, one of them should have at least drawn an inquiry or question, if not a bid?

[mj-trading]

Very impatient isn't going to bring the bids any faster! We looked at our records and when we started on here we had a very 1st bid 4 1/2 months after we started and sold the first item it was almost a month after!
Our records also indicate when we were with the bay when they first started it was over7 months before we sold our 1st item! I'm sorry if we sound hasty but it comes to a point that we have too!:mad: It is people yeping on here that other can see like Buyers and say to heck with this site If you don't have a selction of differant items to offer your not going to get bids like we do! Maybey someone on another site is selling them cheaper! We have 7 items being bid on now and sold 3 large items this week on webidz! We are also on 5 other auction sites and they haven't even got bids on any of our items! We have not sold over 2 items on those other 5!

Lana & Admin Sorry what we had to say but it needs to be said!
You want to boot us off! We'll understand!

[piazzapizza]

It is not being impatient mj. Now, as I anticipated, 2 of the 4 I mentioned who I knew would reply, have replied. In my 1st month on eBay, I sold over $700 worth of baseball cards. Instead of trying to paint me as impatient, and basically attacking me, you avoid entirely the point I am making. I have a wide variety, I know my hobby, I just find it VERY ODD that not one single inquiry has been forwarded to me.

[sniperace66]

I been here at least 2 months no sales yet got 1 that fell thru and a few questions and a lot of lookers
i have the same items at another site got two buyers but they never paid (people trying to get something
For nothing).

As I said in previous posts it’s the economy right now people are not going to spend any money that they
Do not need to spend so if they don't need that card, stereo, dirt bike, or TV they are not going to buy.

This is an election year which does not help and people are so unsure what’s going to happen that they
Are saving their money the government is getting the $600 dollar refund out this week got mine and
You know what I spent it on?? Bills they want us to spend it on unnecessary stuff but when you got bills
To pay, kids to feed, and a house to pay for oh and the price of gas they are not going to spend that $600
For a tv or a dirt bike thay are going to save it and I can’t blame them.

Now sell food cheap or and items that are a necessity cheap and it would sell fast.
I hear fellow workers at work saying the same thing we make over $18 hr and they will not buy anything
That is not a necessity. They are saving their money for harder times yet to come.
This is going to be slow times for selling items just going to have to hang in there and wait for it to get
Better which I think won’t be for at least a year.

[piazzapizza]

Hey MJ,

you said in your reply that you have 7 items being bid on right now. I clicked on your store link and once in your store, I clicked on the bids arrow to show descending bids, which like views, should start at the highest number of bids going to lowest. It started at zero. I then tried it the other way, ascending, again it started at zero. Wanna give me an auction number with a bid, I would love to see what a webidz auction with bids looks like.

[mj-trading]

Think i'm lying?
Here is 5 of them below this is 2 more that just ended!

# 1719894 WOW! Apple Iphone 8GB Fully Unlocked. Use any GSM Net [ Item listed in both ] May. 02, 2008 May. 09, 2008 22 2 Yes (98) 19.98 USD 300.00 Sell Similar
Edit Description

# 1687564 Apple 160GB iPod classic Silver NEW! [ Item listed in both ] April. 12, 2008 May. 06, 2008 64 1 Yes (99) 49.98 USD 50.00 Sell Similar
Edit Description

# 1687467 Apple 8GB iPod touch NEW!!! [ Item listed in both ] April. 12, 2008 May. 09, 2008 15 1 Yes (99) 59.98 USD 125.00 USD Sell Similar
Edit Description

# 1669724 Sony Ericsson W610i in Black/Orange GSM Unlocked Cell Phone [ Item listed in both ] April. 28, 2008 May. 09, 2008 15 1 Yes (98) 59.98 USD 100.00 USD Sell Similar
Edit Description

# 1406851 Sony Ericsson K800i Triband 3.2 MegaPixel Camera Phone [ Item listed in both ] April. 27, 2008 May. 11, 2008 20 1 Yes (99) 89.98 USD 150.00 USD

1687218 Xbox 360 Elite Console New! New! New! [ Item listed in both ]
[ Assign winner manually ] April. 19, 2008 May. 03, 2008 82 3 200.00 USD 5 days 6 days 1 week 2 weeks 3 weeks 4 weeks
# 1687215 XBOX Fun BUNDLE: Xbox Console, 2 Controllers, Da [ Item listed in both ]
[ Assign winner manually ] April. 19, 2008 May. 03, 2008 87 2 49.00 USD

[katandron1]

Can I state the obvious guys???????

Check out the recently sold on home page..........9 times out of 10 what is it that is being sold????

Electronics......why???
Because those are things of high demand, people are always looking for good deals on things they use everyday. We live in an electronic world-People need those things to continue to do business and such. Yes they are always a higher seller than almost anything else at any given time. But especially right now.......Just my opinion.
Phil, I understand where you are comming from, Been here since early Jan myself. 1 sale. And that was a trade out with the difference paid in a transaction to Lana. She had something I wanted and I had something she wanted. So I do know where you are comming from.

[mj-trading]

I'll tell you one thing i don't lie!

Here is my 3 sales in a week!

botmanmk Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1445118 - The Electric XP-700 Pocketbike May. 01, 2008 23:09:32 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 24, 2008 12:36:18 Delete
andrewdv777 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1409716 - The Electric X-400 Scooter Back In Stock End Of May! Contact April. 24, 2008 12:16:28
Here is question we have answered since the first of the year!

botmanmk Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1445118 - The Electric XP-700 Pocketbike May. 02, 2008 16:01:17 Delete
botmanmk Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1445118 - The Electric XP-700 Pocketbike May. 02, 2008 12:46:11 Delete
fun_auctions_4_you Private Question
Auction ID: 1407318 - NEW! Slim Sony Playstation 2 Value Bundle- 86 Games, May. 02, 2008 11:52:50 Delete
botmanmk Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1445118 - The Electric XP-700 Pocketbike May. 02, 2008 11:21:42 Delete
botmanmk Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1445118 - The Electric XP-700 Pocketbike May. 02, 2008 11:08:11 Delete
fun_auctions_4_you Private Question
Auction ID: 1407318 - NEW! Slim Sony Playstation 2 Value Bundle- 86 Games, May. 02, 2008 11:03:50 Delete
abdoand119 Private Question
Auction ID: 1686220 - NEW! Apple Iphone 8GB Fully Unlocked. Use any GSM Network April. 30, 2008 18:08:28 Delete
925qaresearch Private Question - Wanted Ad
Wanted Ad ID: 100571 - Need 10 X 10 pop up canopy! April. 28, 2008 19:46:41 Delete
milly2008 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1669122 - LG VX4700 - CDMA Cell Phone April. 28, 2008 10:42:13 Delete
katana1008 Private Question
Auction ID: 1669051 - Haier 850/1900Mhz GSM Cell Phone with MP3, FM radio April. 25, 2008 14:55:29 Delete
letsdeal1234 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1407397 - Maxam 11pc Drum Set with drumsticks April. 25, 2008 10:51:24 Delete
antboi92 Private Question
Auction ID: 1409792 - Sony Ericsson M600i Granite Black Mobile Communicator (unloc April. 24, 2008 16:21:02 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 24, 2008 15:17:27 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 24, 2008 12:34:41 Delete
andrewdv777 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1409716 - The Electric X-400 Scooter Back In Stock End Of May! Contact April. 24, 2008 12:28:31 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 24, 2008 11:18:10 Delete
andrewdv777 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1409716 - The Electric X-400 Scooter Back In Stock End Of May! Contact April. 24, 2008 10:05:25 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 24, 2008 09:46:19 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 15:27:46 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 15:26:57 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 14:02:57 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 11:22:25 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 11:10:57 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 11:02:43 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 10:21:13 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 10:04:46 Delete
murph456 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1404921 - Mickey Dual Deck DVD and 4-head Hi-Fi VCR Player April. 23, 2008 09:52:42 Delete
letsdeal1234 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1426137 - WHAT A BUY!! REFURBISHED DELL C610 P3 LAPTOP April. 20, 2008 14:40:06 Delete
letsdeal1234 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1668964 - Hp Pavilion tx1220 Entertainment Notebook April. 20, 2008 14:36:34 Delete
blackiso Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1668963 - HP Pavillion Notebook GA378UA#ABA April. 20, 2008 13:35:49
Rascaldal Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1426554 - AIR WARRIOR 4-ENGINE RADIO CONTROL SUPER FORTRESS B-29 BOMBE February. 22, 2008 21:40:55 Delete
stop342 Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1445031 - MOTOROLA I855 FOR NEXTEL UNLOCKED February. 20, 2008 18:34:45 Delete
hawkszoo Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1444422 - February. 20, 2008 14:40:48 Delete
hawkszoo Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1444422 - February. 18, 2008 10:15:15 Delete
hawkszoo Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1444422 - February. 17, 2008 17:15:15 Delete
hawkszoo Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1444422 - February. 17, 2008 10:47:35 Delete
hawkszoo Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1444422 - February. 17, 2008 10:35:21 Delete
hawkszoo Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1444422 - February. 17, 2008 09:46:39 Delete
jane Public Question
Auction ID: 1362402 - February. 05, 2008 19:49:37 Delete
jane Private Question
Auction ID: 1364357 - February. 05, 2008 19:47:55 Delete
rabtc1 Public Question
Auction ID: 1356230 - February. 05, 2008 13:21:08 Delete
rabtc1 Public Question
Auction ID: 1356230 - February. 04, 2008 16:08:21 Delete
wholesaledesign@cox.net Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1374529 - January. 29, 2008 13:12:00 Delete
wholesaledesign@cox.net Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1374529 - January. 24, 2008 16:14:12 Delete
wholesaledesign@cox.net Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1374529 - January. 24, 2008 16:11:55 Delete
wholesaledesign@cox.net Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1374529 - January. 23, 2008 16:55:57 Delete
wholesaledesign@cox.net Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1374529 - January. 23, 2008 16:54:33 Delete
wholesaledesign@cox.net Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1374529 - January. 23, 2008 16:51:52 Delete
pavankgona Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1340457 - January. 23, 2008 09:33:32 Delete
wholesaledesign@cox.net Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1374529 - January. 21, 2008 16:02:35 Delete
pavankgona Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1340457 - January. 18, 2008 15:19:33 Delete
pavankgona Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1340457 - January. 13, 2008 13:50:50 Delete
pavankgona Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1340457 - January. 13, 2008 12:31:25 Delete
pavankgona Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1340457 - January. 12, 2008 18:07:47 Delete
shopdealler Public Question
Auction ID: 1307527 - January. 10, 2008 19:07:51 Delete
shopdealler Private Question
Auction ID: 1305677 - January. 10, 2008 18:28:44 Delete
shopdealler Private Question
Auction ID: 1305677 - January. 10, 2008 17:45:15 Delete
yobtsol Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1287613 - January. 10, 2008 15:39:58 Delete
erichil26 Private Question
Auction ID: 1300466 - January. 07, 2008 14:00:36 Delete
erichil26 Private Question
Auction ID: 1300466 - January. 07, 2008 13:53:46
abcain Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1299823 - January. 06, 2008 13:27:24 Delete
janemax51 Public Question
Auction ID: 1342460 - January. 05, 2008 21:26:58 Delete
janemax51 Public Question
Auction ID: 1342460 - January. 05, 2008 20:52:54 Delete
yobtsol Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1287613 - January. 05, 2008 11:20:14 Delete
yobtsol Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1287613 - January. 05, 2008 11:16:56 Delete
yobtsol Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1287613 - January. 05, 2008 11:03:17 Delete
ANTH20 Public Question
Auction ID: 1316111 - December. 31, 2007 10:34:27 Delete
shadowjia Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1305738 - December. 29, 2007 17:00:34 Delete
shadowjia Successful Sale
Auction ID: 1305738 - December. 29, 2007 16:46:13

[piazzapizza]

Thanks. No, I did not think you were lying. But you seem to be taking this debate rather personally. I have pointed out some anomalies on the site, things about the numbers that don't add up, and you took it upon yourself to turn up the heat about my patience or lacking of patience. How do you figure so many stores can exist on a site like this with only 1 or 2 listings? When a potential buyer goes to a store, you are right, if there is not a good selection, he/she goes away. Go to the home page and refresh a dozen times. Look at all the stores that appear in the featured store box and how many items they have......

[piazzapizza]

Of the 4 mentioned in the original post, only admin has yet to respond. Guess I was pretty astute in knowing who would reply. I wonder what is up with the other 20,000 community members......

[katandron1]

Can we make the other 20k people come to the forums and reply?? No, although we would love to see those people come in.

I spend hours and hours on here everyday (sometimes more than I should), to get some exposure (my name up for people to see). And still not a sale.
I will wait my turn, and do my other forms of marketing also, And wait for a sale.

I'm pretty sure all those millions of people in the world that just lost their homes in forclosure will soon need to redecorate at some point in time.

[piazzapizza]

Hey Kat,

At least your post was relevant to what I am talking about, as was sniperace. Only 1 sale since January huh. Do you get questions about your listings? Maybe people looking for something similar that maybe you have? I know Topps Heritage baseball cards are eagerly sought for by Heritage collectors, and I often got questions asking if I had others besides though I had listed. It is that type of question that I have yet to receive. it's making me wonder who are the folks viewing my auctions.........

[katandron1]

Nope no questions at all.........plenty of people looking but absolutely not one single question.
And I can almost bank on who is viewing my auctions.........people who are either going to sign up as a seller and want to know what me and several others are listing at so they can come in and lower the price, or people who sale on other sites checking out the listings to make sure we are not taking their business from that site.

[piazzapizza]

No, we cannot make any of the 20000 post messages but, consider this. Half of 1% of 20000 would be 100 people posting messages, and 99.5% keeping quiet. We don't even have that half of 1%. it is you Kat, Lana, MJ, RnR, Sniper, Uncle Junk, me and Admin for the most part. 8 people out of 20000. With a scoring ratio like that, it starts to make sense why there are very few sales going down.

[mj-trading]

He has replied to you many times before because you come up with this same statement over and over! about every other week it seems like! That might be why no one else has answered you too!
Visitors come in the community to look and then thinkinmg about buying off the site and then they read in here!
)There are no bids or buyers something is wrong ect, ect!! They think to there self, There must be something wrong on this site! I think i'll go and buy on another site!)

We'll that hurts our sales and the other sellers sales on here too just because one seller is yepping week after week about it!

[piazzapizza]

You know what MJ, if i had had 77 sales in almost 2.5 years, or an average of 2-3 a month, and my reputation score was a mere 16 comments and 93.75%, I would not be throwing stones at people who question the numbers........

[katandron1]

Maybe the majority of those people don't want to have a "relationship" on here with anyone except for their buyers. Who knows why they don't chat in the forums.
At the risk of sounding rude.......frankly I don't care why they don't come in......if they do they do, if they don't they don't.

[piazzapizza]

you did not sound rude at all kat. And yes, maybe the majority of them don't want a relationship on the message boards. A majority. But all of them? That is what keeps puzzling me.

[mj-trading]

Were you come up with 77 sales! I just showed you the first 2 pages out of 22!
Not eveyone leaves feedback!

We have 10 web stores and our on 5 other auction sites too! We do around 11 to 15 sales a day!

The longer you talk about this The more people visting is going to see this and say the heck with this site!
Time to change the subject!

[Lanascountry]

Phil, My own store rarely shows up in feature either. I am admittedly a very small seller
here. When I took on this forum board last year, John & Myra can tell you there was no one at
all hardly here. (ever or rarely) on the forums. I feel that with the help (lo please don't let me leave
anyone out) anyway with the help of you, Roz, Kat, M&J, Uncle Junk, Joe, Ace, lots more folks, a few
no longer active here, and many more newer folks, this forum would be totally asleep.
(if you all were not here).
Please no body get angry with me, but I have been in Phil's shoes, and it feels AWFUL!
I have been here 3 years soon (active only 2, really!) and I have 18 sales, counted the no
FBI ones.
The reason I have not said anything earlier is that I thought our Admin might need to
handle this. As I said in my first short comment, I don't know what to say.
Kat, I think you made some great points, all of you did and I appreciate it.
Phil, in regard to the featured seller slot, we have many many featured sellers and maybe
that is why we don't seem to show up much in the featured slot.
Also, are you diversifying, you know what we keep saying about all the eggs in one
basket..lol, that was part of our mistake at greed-bay.

[mj-trading]

I'm done in the community! All i was trying at the beginning is to try to tell him this does not look good to visitors when he says this same thing over and over every week or so!

We''ll GOODBYE!!

[Lanascountry]

I agree John, please don't be angry..This is a board that we will have things come up
from time to time..I understand your points..You are very vital here and we need you all
the time!! Bless you I appreciate you & Myra so much, what would we have done
without you? You KNOW I always try to keep things smooth.. Do you think I maybe should
lock this post, folks?
Thanks :)

[sniperace66]

yes i agree Lanascountry it should be locked

[katandron1]

Lana, I don't think the answer is to lock the post.
It's there even if you do. Should it be removed? No, that's not the answer either.
Of course Phil was right in voicing his opinion.
John was right in voicing his.
You were right in voicing yours.
Sniper was right in voicing his.
I was right in voicing mine.
People are people and will voice opinion on what they feel strongly about. And that's what makes Webidz a great place to be.

Yes we need to keep the community positive. But at the same time, it's not gonna always happen that way. And we say what we say and move on.

[Lanascountry]

I agree, Kat..that is what I was trying to say as well. Thanks! Thank you to everyone for
having views, that IS what it is all about.:)

[sniperace66]

should be locked it seems that this is getting personal
at least if its locked it will not be able to continue it and give
time for all partys to calm down

[piazzapizza]

1. To lock a thread is tantamount to obstructing honest healthy debate. It defeats the whole purpose of having message boards.
2. MJ, I got the number 77 from the auctions home page in the top sellers list. It shows you with 77. It does not give me a time frame so those 77 could be from the past month, week or year. I agree, everyone does not leave feedback but I know I would be disappointed if I had 77 customers and only 16 left feedback, a paltry 20%. That is not a negative against you, it is simply a point of debate, because to sell online, reputation and feedback ids the heart and soul.
3. Maybe I have voiced my concern and frustration more than some people may like, but, under the circumstances, it is not unusual. I work in a thrift store in southern Indiana and a few weeks ago, a woman came in holding a list of hot items on eBay, and she was looking in our books maybe hoping to find something from the list or something similar. I told her I had just left ebay and was now on WeBidz. I have seen her several times in the store since then, asked her if she had looked at WeBidz. She said yes, but there are no bids so she will not be joining. Now that is from an outside 3rd party point of view.
4. This morning I noticed there is a store on WeBidz with over 15,000 items. WOW. I visited the store to see how many items had bids on them. Both ascending and descending options showed zero. Either those keys only work for the store owner or there is a bug.

I simply am pointing out that right now, I have 141 items in my store, and there is no valid reason to increase to 15,000 unless I start seeing some bids and sales. Yes, you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink. But the question is, if the horse won't drink from the cool fresh stream, will he drink from a river?

[katandron1]

Phil,

1. Look at the other top sellers from the home page. Their feedback is less than what the sale totals say also. So it's not just Johns that is that way. Was the feedback system in place from the very beginning? Only Admin can answer that one.
My feedback should be higher than what it is, there are I think 3 that I have purchased from that I left feedback for and they did not for me. And they are somewhat active in the forums. Does it bug me, sure it does. But what am I gonna do, harass them for the feedback?

2. The store you are talking about has 635 pages of nothing but mousepads listed. Do I need a mousepad?, nope I have 5 in my home and only use 1 at a time. The seller has accomplished what he set out to do, be the first store on the first page when someone looks at stores. Therefore, gaining exposure to his store. And he has secured that spot by having over double the listings of anyone else. They handmake their items, and as long as he keeps up with any orders he receives, he can list that he has a million.
Others, like yourself, myself, mj, powerseller, librarian, roz, lana, have to keep an eye on inventory.

3. When you were on Ebay, did you sell and have customers there? If so, why are they not buying from you here? It shouldn't matter that there may not be any bids on anyone elses items here. Your customers come to you for baseball cards. So it should not concern them if I have no bids on my items that are in no way related to baseball. They are your customers, and if you have built up a good customer base, with good customer service, delivering what you sold, addressed any issues they may have had, they should not have any issues with purchasing from you no matter what site you are on.

I have not seen Admin, nor any other member say that just because you have a store that you can list X amount of items in, it has to be full at all times. How much you list is up to you.

Some may make the point that the energy you put into this thread, could be better served somewhere else. Search engines, putting ads on Craigs list, contacting previous customers, whatever the form of advertising may be. I'm not in anyway saying you have not done that. But doing it over and over and over again can't hurt.

[piazzapizza]

I agree with a lot of what you say Kat. Yes, I had customers on eBay, had a 1500 + feedback rating over there. I sent emails to several hundred of them advising them I had moved to WeBidz. Why they have not followed and bought from me here is a mystery. My price structure and inventory is basically identical to what I did there. I posted messages on several yahoo baseball card groups message boards, still to no avail. I continue to make attempts to attract business, using the big names like Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Alex Rodriguez to draw attention to my store.
I think the main reason I expended so much energy in this thread was I felt that both the point was being missed or ignored, and that unfortunately mj took it somewhat personal and chose to blast me rather than be constructive.
I was not and am not trying to scare or chase away people. But it is what it is, even Lana is at a loss for words to explain the lack of movement.
As for the mousepad store, true, but I know I sure don't have the time to scan 15,000 different baseball cards, and I won't invest the money to upgrade my store to that level until I see some return on the time I have already invested. That is a sound business decision from my perspective.

[katandron1]

People are creatures of habit Phil.
They stay where they are comfortable. Ebay has been around so long that it is hard for these newer sites to compete. People (buyers) will move from Ebay when they are forced to (sellers have left). It's not just this site that is experiencing low bid rates.
I have Webidz, and 3 webstores. I just set 2 of those up. Sales are slow everywhere.
Baseball (or any other sport) is not my thing, (even though my son played little league for a couple of years), I simply went to the games to support our team and watch the kids have fun. Couldn't tell you the first thing about it though, cept if he was to have joined this year we wouldn't be able to afford it, but probly would have found a way if he had joined.

I would go crazy trying to scan 15k items every week to check availability, and remove any ads so as not to disappoint a customer and make myself look like a bad seller. I have not been in business long enough to fine tune my efforts and get that organized. So I list what I'm comfortable with and expand as I gain experience (with the help of friends who have been in business for years).

[piazzapizza]

You hit the nail on the head there about people being creatures of habit.

[katandron1]

I know that none of this helps the issue of low bid activity.
I was forced from Ebay as a seller due to the fact of the fees. I can't compete with those that have been there for years and years. I lost alot of money on Ebay having to lower my items so low that I couldn't even cover my costs.
The only thing I can do here is continue to work, keep my name out there with a positive attitude behind it and one day a sale or two will come. And more following it.
Since I am new to selling, the best that I can hope for is that someday someone will trust me enough to take a chance. And in the meantime, I can make some purchases here for things (as I can afford them) that my family may need or want to help build up that feedback. Put myself in the buyers shoes and be a good buyer. That in itself goes along way as to what kind of seller I will be.

[piazzapizza]

I was not forced off of eBay due to the fees. I chose to leave when they decided that any store inventory item had to be priced at $1 or higher. I did not agree with that because the merchandise was mine, not theirs, and I was paying them fees in order to host my store. How much I chose to charge was my decision, and mine only. If WeBidz or any other site was to dictate my pricing structure to me, I would leave there too.
I knew that leaving there and going to a new site would slow things down considerably. But I never envisioned that it would come to a screeching halt. I feel like I am at one of those traffic lights that seems to stay on red forever.

[admin]

I personally do not feel that this thread should be locked. A community is where members should feel free voice their opinions, good or bad. Although we would like to see the majority of the posts to be positive, as this would overall be a better reflection for new visitors to the site. But there are going to be problems, and questions that are not going to be positive in nature. We feel members should be able to voice concerns when they have them, and others should be able to give their opions as well... even if they do not agree with each other. If there is a debate that someone feels is getting too personal, we ask that you just ignore the thread, and possibly just let it die if it is not going anywhere. If a thread becomes abusive or threatening, we will lock the thread.

Lack of participation in the community was mainly due to WeBidz staff inability to effectively run the community in a successful manner. Up until about seven months ago, the community consisted of maybe 2-3 posts per week. We revamped the community software and brought on new management (Lana), to assist us in building the community. Over the past seven months the community has grown in leaps and bounds, and continues to grow at a very fast pace. We have quite a few very strong community members that are continually offering support and advice to other members, this is also a very big asset to the current growth. Will we ever have 100% participation in the community from all the registered members? The answer is no, but the percentage has been on the rise for the last seven months. This factor alone has been a huge contribution to the buyer satisfaction levels on the site, thus helping us increase our buyer base.

Does the site need improvement? yes. Do we need a broader buyer base? yes. There are many improvements needed on the site, and we are continually working on advancing the site. If you have been here a year or so, I am sure you are aware of the positive momentum of the WeBidz site.

Do you have products that move in other markets, but do not move here? If so, do you have suggestions for trade publications or circulars we could advertise in? We are continually expanding our advertising reach, and we are always willing to look at suggestions for advertising our members may have.

[piazzapizza]

Hey admin. Great post. If you are looking for magazines to advertise in, a couple that come to mind for me would be the Beckett Sports Monthly, which is basically the bible for anyone who collects sportscards. Another could be the USA Today Sports Weekly, that focuses primarily on MLB and NFL stories, teams etc.

[katandron1]

My point exactly Phil.
The fees to list things whether they sell or not......and in order to compete, having to lower prices so low as to not even be able to cover my own costs when an item did sell.
That is what forced me to leave.
Did my leaving affect the 4 or 5 buyers that I had? No, there are too many people on Ebay that have been there for years and years, selling and taking a loss or two on items. I can't afford to do that.
Did you leaving affect those customers who seek out baseball cards? Probly not, there are too many people on Ebay selling baseball cards. Your store closed so those customers sought out a different seller.
Now, when all the other sellers who give 2cents about their business, wake up and realize what Ebay is doing, and they leave, it forces the customers to leave. Therefore breaking their creature of habit routine.
The OAC is simply a venue for sellers to be able to sell. It is the sellers business, not the OAC. The OAC should not have any hand (i.e. pricing, store policies) in the sellers business, and how it runs. At that point it becomes the OACs business, with no consequences to the OAC when a seller fails to perform, or a buyer fails to perform.
It would be like the government comming into your physical store and telling you that you can't sell a widget for .99. All the nations dollar general stores would be out of business at that point.
Really I'm surprised that the OAC gets involved in disputes, does the local paper get involved when a person runs an ad and the transaction goes bad?

[piazzapizza]

Right. It's like a landlord renting a store at a strip mall to a vendor who is opening a sandwich shop, and then tells him how much to sell his bologna sandwiches for.

What's OAC?

[admin]

OAC= Online Auction Community

Thanks for the advertising suggestions, I have added to our list of advertising options.

[Lanascountry]

I have only 1 small suggestion that J&M (John) made as well, I think everyone, (especially myself)
needs to broaden their merchandise base..I am BAD to get 'stuck' on a few items that I list the
same type over & over & over..I think Kat, Roz, Uncle Junk, M&J (and more) have great variety.
PS the reason I did NOT lock it, I wanted to know how the community felt (and you Admin) about that,
and was not comfortable doing that, as this is a free exchange of ideas. Thanks Boss! :)

[admin]

If any other members have suggestions for specific advertising outlets, please feel free to let us know. Keep in mind that we will not advertise products/categories that there are only a few items listed, as the ROI would not merit the expenditure. We will not guarantee that we will advertise on all suggested outlets, but we will look into each and possibly add to our advertising portfolio.

[admin]

I did not see any posts that were out of line. There were some heated comments, but feel that each member was only trying to express their point of view. We hope that none of our members take any statements too personally, as opinions are simply being expressed from each parties point of view. Each seller has to make decisions on how to run their own business. Statements or comments from others may or may not be right, but it is their opinion and they have the right to express it.

Expanding inventory is definitely a good idea and is a great suggestion, but everyone needs to realize that some only deal in specific areas... So this may not be an option for some.

[Lanascountry]

For me, Admin...I used to do really well in jewelry, and I just don't take the time to
sit down, photo it, edit it...post it...and I HAVE it..(my own fault) :confused:

[dcacperfectsoundsolution]

Hi
i made 5 sucessfull sales so far but everyday i hope for more and meanwhile i list on bay as well
as craigslist and amazon. I try to sell a bit of everything but still want to get into the cell phones and mp3 & 4 players, any suggestions? This site is not paying my bills yet but i keep listing in hopes it will catch on
i also think the economy is killing business. Back in 2003 gas was $1.43/Gallon on Memorial day weekend.
Bush has destroyed this country and spent more money then all former presidents combined.
Yesterday a US Helicopter strike killed 8 innocent Civilians including several children. What is the death toll there for iraquies? over 1/2 a million... Too bad Hillary cant be president, having a Clinton in the whitehouse may bring us back to a good economy, maybe she will get VP. Remember the surplus, when SSI was not threatened?
Oh well i think i got off on the wrong track but bringing it back around All this really does have to do with our sales. Anyway does anyone know how to get the repatoo to show up on our home page?
Clifford the big red dog
@DC/AC

[katandron1]

Mornin Clifford,
I believe you can put the html code from repatoo into the main page of your store. Go to repatoo, and copy the html code instead of the bbcode for your badge, then go to the members area and select "my store" tab, then select "main settings" sub tab, paste your code there in the store description box. You may have to click the <> symbol at the top of that box, then paste the code. Not sure, can't remember how I did mine exactly.
The gas prices have alot to do with the lack of sales everywhere. We should all start spamming Bush as a customer since when he steps down from office he will have all that money from the gas profits to spend! That could be the new economic stimulas.

[Joylandgiftstore]

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/3/4/6/2/5/webimg/135618184_o.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/Joylandgiftstore)


Hi,

Talking about making a sale. I joined Webidz about 3 months ago. My first bad experience was I had over 150 of my listed items disappeared. I emailed admin about this problem, I was promised my listing fees will be refunded back to me, but nothing happened. I love designing my listing pages, and I spent a lot of time doing so, all that went down the drain, and I had to start all over again.

Back to making a sale. I was lucky and unlucky at the same time. I sold three items this month. Two sales on 05/11/08 and another on 05/15/08. These three buyers did not pay for the items they bought, not only that, they never responded to three different email messages I sent to them. Isn't that funny? three different "NON PAYING BIDDER" in a single month:mad::mad:

Thanks,
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/3/4/6/2/5/webimg/135762577_o.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/Joylandgiftstore)
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO VISIT MY STORE !! (http://www.webidz.com/stores/Joylandgiftstore)

[mj-trading]

Joy the reason you probaly didn't get no listing fees refunded to you! Is because there is None!

[unclejunk1]

I love it, now this is a thread where folks are expressing themselves without tempers flaring. My two cents worth. Now worth less than 1/10 of a cent. I really don't think Bush was smart enough to get rich off this mess. Chaney on the other hand probably is. The Clintons did some positive things but also some very negative ones. The question is who do you trust not to totally bury us after November. Bids and sales will come to those that are patient. Even junk sells to someone. I have watched several sites experience problems but can tell you that this site fixes them and fairly. If you had a loss it will be taken care of. Thanks for including me in your example Lana but I don't think I have answers yet. After discussing the worlds ill's this morning with my little group of elders, I am convienced that everyone has an opinion by no-one has a solution yet. That is also the answer for slow sales! This will not apply to folks dropshipping but the others should know it well - you make money by the way you buy, not by the way you sell. The way you sell is dictated by the way you buy. If you are a dropshipper you are controlled by the place you send your orders to and can only sell based on the cost from them. The ecomony is not good but this is not the first time it has been this way. I kept hearing these are the last days this morning, we survived the Great Depression and will this to. Keep your attitude good and smile when you do your thing even if no-one can see you.

[katandron1]

Remeber the site credit all that responded to Admins emails got...........Check there .....Members area, My account, and manage account......it shows how much you have in your account balance credits.
As far as non paying bidders, they are Everywhere. We get rid of them as we find them. There's no way of telling when someone joins what type of member they will be. That's why we report to Admin when a deal goes south, so that he can get rid of the deadbeat bidders AND sellers.

[Lanascountry]

Uncle Rick..LOL you always give me a special thought and hope/belief for the day. Please continue
to post. We appreciate your knowledge,. opinions, and wisdom, dear (southern) friend! :D

[dcacperfectsoundsolution]

Thanks Kathy
for that instructional on Repatoo
It worked!
Yea with gas the way it is i bought a motorcycle but still would like a smaller car or a even a horse
Our Cars should be getting over 50 MPG Even the Metropolitian back in the 50's got better mileage than most cars today. The Gov should have mandated 40 MPG by 2010 for All Cars in Production and sold in the USA.
Even the 1910 Silver Ghost got 25 MPG. I went into a bunch of this kind of stuff on my blog.
Anyway Have a Great Extended weekend.
Have a Cookout and remember a man without his horse should try and ride a mule...
Clifford

[katandron1]

Honey......I'm Home........

Here's what I wanna know.....
Who was watchin down the drive and shut the party down as I pulled up???????:mad:
WOW... I leave for a couple of hours and the site starts jumpin.
I have caught up on all of the reading I think, and just want to welcome all of our new members who have been so active today.
Everyone is so positive and upbeat, it's a refreshing change of pace. All of the ideas and suggestions for the site sound great. Let's help Admin get everything into place by helping ourselves and new members as much as we can.
Great banners Tom.....I'll be copying those to my comp.
Lana, we need to get those hosted or whatever we need to do to be able to add code and make them clickable.
Then at least myself needs lesson on how to be able to get the code for those new banners to the new members.
I know how to do our original, but not a personalized.
Clifford, glad I could help...anytime will be happy to if I can.
Lana, maybe some "locked" threads/forums with some instructions for stuff (i.e. banners, repatoo) that we won't get to chatting on (not that we ever do:D) for reference. Something that can't get buried and the leaders and members can access better instead of "hunting" it down. Chat it over with Bossman, see what you can come up with.

[mj-trading]

Honey......I'm Home........

Here's what I wanna know.....
Who was watchin down the drive and shut the party down as I pulled up???????:mad:
WOW... I leave for a couple of hours and the site starts jumpin.
I have caught up on all of the reading I think, and just want to welcome all of our new members who have been so active today.
Everyone is so positive and upbeat, it's a refreshing change of pace. All of the ideas and suggestions for the site sound great. Let's help Admin get everything into place by helping ourselves and new members as much as we can.
Great banners Tom.....I'll be copying those to my comp.
Lana, we need to get those hosted or whatever we need to do to be able to add code and make them clickable.
Then at least myself needs lesson on how to be able to get the code for those new banners to the new members.
I know how to do our original, but not a personalized.
Clifford, glad I could help...anytime will be happy to if I can.
Lana, maybe some "locked" threads/forums with some instructions for stuff (i.e. banners, repatoo) that we won't get to chatting on (not that we ever do:D) for reference. Something that can't get buried and the leaders and members can access better instead of "hunting" it down. Chat it over with Bossman, see what you can come up with.

Must have took you 2 hours Kat to type that one with your pinky fingure!! LOL!:rolleyes:

[katandron1]

John, don't make me sick Myra on you tonight LOL

[rnrgiftsnmore]

There you go threatening folk again!! Lana, oh Lana!! Inftraction on Kat -1000 pts!!:eek::D;)

[katandron1]

Not a threat......A promise, that's different......And you know as well as I know, Myra is just waiting for a reason to smack him.

[mj-trading]

Told you the other day i allready have 2 black eyes!:eek:

[rnrgiftsnmore]

And can‘t afford a steak for either one, not even a tube steak.

[mj-trading]

PENGUIN IS GOOD!
ROZ! Check out the Lobby!

[Lanascountry]

LOL, somebody gotta do something' pretty bad 'afore I TAKE anything..
from anyone, LOL, I could not do without any of you!!:D
Kat..it has been a wonderful BUSY afternoon on here!! (I think it was ACE) that
suggested we start a information only board, and you know what..Admin and I already
were talking about it..'yal always about 2 steps ahead of me though!! :D
What do you think Kat, and everyone? how could we keep the flow of information,
questions and help positive? In other words, in that area..keep it NICE, NO gripping
and help each other (LEARN & help, ONLY)..need yal to tell me..?


I don't have the expertise to create a click-able question board..but lol, I bet
that admin and his guys can..Folks let me refresh my memory re; the click-able
banners..it is in the 'gray matter' somewhere, but LOL, I bet Ms. Roz, Kat and
Mr John remember it better than me.
BTW, Mr John..what I told you I am gonna work on..hang with me..I will get it for
yah,,,I have a BIG BAD work schedule coming so yal say a bit a' prayer for
this old one!!

Everyone is welcome to offer help, suggestions, and lets go with it..this is for
TEAM, though folks..Several of our very active members are here many hours
a day and we have built this forum board from almost nothing THIS year. With
the help of a few more wonderful member-LEADERS, we can make this
board and this SITE a force to know and reckon with.
You will find that the very active members here are by no means quitters,
we ARE staying the course.

[rnrgiftsnmore]

Penquin is gone, I et him, Rick said he tasted like chicken!!! Where did you and the family go? (pppssssssttt!! picture is missing) :D:eek:

[mj-trading]

Lana! If your talking about the info board ace brought up on keeping it clean no cripping! The only way to do that is when someone does! Block it off there! Maybey they will get the hint! I think Ace was right it would be nice to have a board like that!

[mj-trading]

Penquin is gone, I et him, and where did you and the family go? (pppssssssttt!! picture is missing)

It's here!! Put your glasses on!!

[katandron1]

if it is just another section (like news & announcements)......locked threads.....and NOTHING else gets posted there, something for the team to reference from time to time but nothing can get added to a thread, and the thread can't be buried by other threads.

Sorry ace, didn't mean to re cover that issue, didn't remember seeing it in all the reading I did when I came in.

[rnrgiftsnmore]

It's here!! Put your glasses on!!

Someone tell him, everybody moved out!! no pictures....

[mj-trading]

Better reboot yourpc or somehting because the Bears are there with everything else!

[katandron1]

Roz, just put the glasses on......or clean your comp screen,,,,,,the polar bears are there

[mj-trading]

She must have got one of those Michigan Bugs in her eyes!

[rnrgiftsnmore]

OK, fine!! I can see them now, must have been the dust coming up from Okieland.

[Lanascountry]

(per Mr John, MJ)
Lana! If your talking about the info board ace brought up on keeping it clean no cripping! The only way to do that is when someone does! Block it off there! Maybey they will get the hint! I think Ace was right it would be nice to have a board like that!
That is EXACTLY what I mean John..In other words if say: Kat is trying to help someone do banners, or Rozzie is helping with WAM or Mr John with sales..on and on like that (and me and everyone else helping somewhere in those threads)
and say someone comes in and sabotages their threads we need to get it stopped and move on..I love funning and joking but in THOSE threads we gonna be about business, instruction, and helping each other. (I am ONLY talking about those INSTRUCTIONAL threads that we do NOT have yet.):) I asked for opinions and all went of topic , what happened? :D

[rnrgiftsnmore]

It's here!! Put your glasses on!!

That is EXACTLY what I mean John..In other words if say: Kat is trying to help someone do banners, or Rozzie is helping with WAM or Mr John with sales..on and on like that (and me and everyone else helping somewhere in those threads)
and say someone comes in and sabotages their threads we need to get it stopped and move on..I love funning and joking but in THOSE threads we gonna be about business, instruction, and helping each other. (I am ONLY talking about those INSTRUCTIONAL threads that we do NOT have yet.):) I asked for opinions and all went of topic , what happened? :D


First let me appologize Lana, I am sorry for interupting you.

Now to the idea of a thread, I agree with Kat, maybe try posting some stickys with pretty straight forward instructions, ie:Admin"s instructions for WAM, Pete's instructions for getting the Repatoo Badge. Name is somithing like Webidz Reference Room, with topics like WAM, Repatoo badge, Webidz banner, these would all be closed with room then we could have threads under the approprialte topic for helping another member.

How does that sound? Just a thought.
Roz

[DealsHQ]

Hey , My wife is from MI, keego harbor --small world but i wouldn't want to paint it.

[Lanascountry]

Oh Roz no prob..I started my idea and had to go away from PC and take care
of my pup..NO one interupted..I just had to walk away with a half finished thought!! :D
I think maybe have these things we need to help (and NEED help) with all the time in
ONE board section and use that area alone for that. maybe something like, what the
boss calls talk to admin..(not that one but like that). We really need to hear all your
ideas and many many thanks!! :)

[katandron1]

See all the locks on forums at the top........this is what we need admin to do......put in a section (like the news and announcements)......that has the instructions to, wam, banners, repatoo, and whatever else he knows about that HAS to have specific instructions.......Then he needs to lock those threads AND forum. To where the only thing that anyone can do is copy the instructions and codes to help people in other threads. No one can put a new post, no one can put a new thread. Only Admin, for things that come up on the site that needs specific instructions. Really and truely, that would cut down alot of things. None of us would be able to post anything and we couldn't add any more threads to "bury" the help ones.
For us, it's just a reference, to go and look at now and then when someone has a question like, Can someone help me get my banner code? I go to the top forum, copy the code, put in the user name, and wala, that person has their code with instructions.

Would look something like this on the community page..........

(whatever the name of the forum)

WAM link/instructions

Repatoo (Feedback) instructions

Banner code /instructions


so on and so on........that forum has 3 threads........everything locked....admin is the only one to make any changes within that forum. Nothing gets buried, and the thread itself is contained to 1 post.

[Lanascountry]

Kat, I can do any type locks on the boards that need lock/unlock..
you know what though Kat..?
I want Admin to set it up as a 'stand alone' board like his so that it stands out and folks
say..'see it is right there'!!:D We are also working on board rules. :rolleyes:

[sniperace66]

I think we need forum rules and policies and a section where
Other members can help and contribute to the site and not have the
Threads go off topic so that members can help each other

With the things that are going on at eBay we are going to get
More members on the forums then in the past we just
Got a small taste of it today I was in and out all day and it was
The most people I seen on these forums in 1 day.

[katandron1]

Why do I get the feeling that everyone is saying the same thing with slight differences? LOL

The educational threads that Ace brought up.......they need to be where NO ONE can post in them. They are just that, educational threads with pertinent information that needs to stay at the top.
A sticky wouldn't work if the forum itself was not locked. A sticky can be buried by other threads that get started.

Now, most everyone reads down the community boards, but some will just post a question in any thread, and I don't have a problem with answering those questions. BUT, if the information was viewable (i.e. WAM download) at all times, never to be buried, and only be 1 post in that thread (Admins post), then there would be alot less repetative questions in the boards, therefore less confusion.

If I had not copied and pasted that banner code(s) to my computer, everytime someone wanted a banner (onsite & offsite), I would be chasing down the now famous thread "Link to store" created by unclejunk, which is probly now buried on page 6 or 7 in whatever forum it got put in.

[Lanascountry]

You and several others are the ones we would like to call on to assist community
leadership, Ace..You (uncle junk) and a few more!! We are going to have to have it set up
organized and on topic..!!
It was sort of exciting today wasn't it? I have been on almost straight through since like 11:00
AM EST..YESTERDAY!(I gotta sign off because of work in the AM)

[sniperace66]

I understand that something like (frequently asked questions)
But I also meant that members helping members out like maybe
Help with creating banners for other members and tips and tricks
On selling and advertising and other stuff that members can help
Out but they would need to be able to post in those topics

[Joylandgiftstore]

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/3/4/6/2/5/webimg/135618184_o.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/Joylandgiftstore)

What makes M&J think I did not pay listing fees for my disappeared listings? Webidz sent me invoice for that month, and the invoice was paid in full. Maybe M&J knows something I did not know. :(

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http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/3/4/6/2/5/webimg/135762577_o.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/Joylandgiftstore)

[Lanascountry]

HI again, Ace :)
Maybe a series of locked (info only) threads and a series of feedback/question/
answer threads.. I think it could be done in the same area.:rolleyes::) (maybe)

[mj-trading]

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/3/4/6/2/5/webimg/135618184_o.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/Joylandgiftstore)

What makes M&J think I did not pay listing fees for my disappeared listings? Webidz sent me invoice for that month, and the invoice was paid in full. Maybe M&J knows something I did not know. :(

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http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/3/4/6/2/5/webimg/135762577_o.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/Joylandgiftstore)

There is NO Listing Fee"s!! Just inhance fees like for home page ect! BUT NO LISTING FEE'S!
Did you go into your account and look if you have credits? That's how Admin refunded everyone whe the site got the bug in! I suggest you look in your account and see!

[librarian42]

Hello Fellow Webidzers,
I must admit, I am wondering at the lack of bids. Webidz seems to attract sellers quite well. With no listing fees and low finaly sales fee, it is great. But, what attracts the buyers?
I have talked a number of potential buyers, and they don't see any reason to go to Webidz. Ebay is bigger. EBay has the stuff the want. They don't want to "take a chance" with their credit information with another site. They don't want to have to learn another site. One person was even suspicious of why I "Couldn't" use eBay (Was there something wrong with me?). (The fact that it would cost over $60.00 just to list the number of items that I have on Webidz each month - assuming no sales - didn't faze him).
I don't know what the answer is - if I did, then I would be suggesting something :o. But a lack of buyers seems to be the crux of the problem.
I'm stuck at home with a LOT of stuff and not much else to do, until my leg heals so I will stay in there and keep punching. I am worryed though. I won having my Store on the Front Page, I have 1600 items, I have lower prices on them then items that are comparable on eBay or other sites, but almost nothing. (There may be a lot of junk in there, but still...)
Keep up the Good Work, Librarian42.

[katandron1]

Yes keep up the good work Drake. We need ya, and sooner hopefully than later, those buyers will be forced to leave ebay also, cause there are at least another 5 or so sellers from ebay that have joined in the last couple of days. When the sellers leave, the buyers will have to also.

[DealsHQ]

Well webidz is good for both sellers and buyers, because of the no listing fees sellers can sell items at a lower price and that is good for the buyers.
And you should tell them webidz is paypal friendly and their info will be safe and they will still be covered by the paypal buyer protection.

[librarian42]

Hello All,
We will stay in there. I know that I don't have the hot new items that people are looking for. We are a group that is cleaning out attics the size of aircraft hangers.
The low price thing is one that I focus on to people. We COULDN'T sell items on eBay for $0.95 to $0.25 each. However, one problem I can see for us specificly, if most of the items we sell are so low in price that people have been saying that spending a few dollars (or cents) more is not a problem to stick with the BIG GORILLA eBay.
Advertising and marketing is a BIG element too. EBay is EVERYWHERE. It is hard to see Webidz. I have mentioned our site a few online sites, but I'm not that savy on the net. I figure that some word of mouth by mentioning Webidz on people's My Space pages and like will help. Has anyone got any bites that way?
I have shifted some of my decriptions to focus the titles on buzzwords that would appear in Google searches and get them higher up on search on other search engines too. But, I'm still learning how that works.
Let me know any other ideas that people have on this, Drake / Librarian42.

[DealsHQ]

Yes, keep marketing webidz to your friends,family and people you meet online, if we work together and come up with grassroot ideals webidz will continue to grow ,but we all need to do our part and work together. Ebay has got so high with fees and hard to deal with it is becoming less and less user friendly.So in time if we work together webidz can still become a very popular place to buy and sell.
Thanks and keep telling people and customers about webids

[Lanascountry]

All great ideas, Tom..precisely what we must CONTINUE to do..Many thanks! :D
If we continue to work at this everyday, BUYERS are going to see that MANY outstanding
sellers are at the alternative sites and they WILL follow, it WILL take time.

[unclejunk1]

Based on what I just read Librarian is looking for reasons for buyers to come here and is getting hammered when trying to give answers. Lana, John and some of the others here remember when the bay started. not that that really matters except that we know the problems that came up time and again. Examples - people listing things that were not what they said they were. Claiming items were gold when brass is one example. Never delivering what they sold but keeping the money, stealing your personal information. Identy theft which also happend to me. My account was broken into and a person was trying to sell electronics using my account and feedback - had me totally locked out. I got it straightened out but here you don't have as many of these type for worries like on the big site and an administrtor to handle problems - A Person not just an automated response that may take days to get anyone else if you ever got anyone. Point safer for the buyer and sure punishment for anyone trying to rip them off. If they are afraid to use a secure site to leave credit info with them they better never use a card again. There are readers out there any waiter or waitress can get to steal your info off the magneitic strip when you hand them your card. In Mexico they will not take your card away like here. They bring a portable to the table or you pay at the register only. Point nothing is totally safe but we are like the corner store where you know the owner and can talk to them if a problem comes up. Better we have dealers that can get you anything you want within reason and if you ask probably what is not within reason. Ebay has people that sell almost nothing but knockoffs and will not tell you they are. i,know one that lives a few miles from me that claims his stuff is coming from estate sales or bought out a doctors collection. I know this guys Dad and have seen his Chinese Reproductions he calls real antiques and collectables - they are all fake - ebay does nothing about it. Again safer here. People make mistakes but not on everything. I bet John can add to this.

[jtsspecialties]

Hello everyone :)
I just wanted to say that we have to also remember that the Bay also has deep pockets and adverts on the radio, Television etc. A small site such as this and others just can not compete with that. We just have to hang in there and be patient. I've only been here since march and only 1 sale however i stay hopeful and things will get better i'm sure. I have just 91 items listed at this time currently have 3 items with bids I can only hope in the next few days that they sell. I also have 6 other sites which are not even coming close to the hit ratio i get here. I pull about 500 hits a week here. Not bad i'd say. My Main store only does 400 hits a month and i ve not even sold anything there either. Of course I drve an 18 wheeler imagine everytime you goto the pump and put fuel in it costs $950.00 every 2 days:(. The economy sucks right now and no relief in sight:mad: but we can be patient and things will pick up i'm sure.