Feedback Extortion at eBay Going on NOW!

[Lanascountry]

:mad:

This post from a powerseller @ POWERSELLERSUNITE.com (this morning)

Lana's comment: sounds exactly like a ransom or kidnapping note from a television movie doesn't it? :(
I understand this has been sent to the FBI and numerous other agencies.


Listen very carefully. I am the winner of this item. I have 4 other eBay Users in place either bidding on or have won items from you plus myself totaling 5.

We are prepared to leave you 5 Positive Feedbacks or 5 Negative Feedbacks depending on your actions. In a nutshell, we are in the business of selling Positive Feedbacks to eBay Sellers for $20 each, totaling $100 for 5 Positive Feedbacks.

If you purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks for $100, you not only get to sell your items, you also receive 5 Positive Feedbacks. As you well know, Feedback is EVERYTHING to an eBay seller on whether they are successful or not.

I’m sure that you want to remain successful in your eBay business. Plus, along with the 5 Positive Feedbacks, we will also Guarantee Never to contact you again and we take you off of our list. You’ll even get a receipt for your purchase.

Now, here’s the important part.

If you refuse to purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks, we will leave you 5 Negative Feedbacks for starters. We have 100’s & 100’s of eBay Users in place that we can use to leave feedbacks. In fact, we have enough to consistently leave you Negative Feedbacks for months resulting in you having to shut down your business.

The absolute worst thing that you can do at this point is to try and contact eBay at any time about this or refuse to cooperate; we Will start leaving you negative Feedbacks and shut your business down.

Make no mistake, we’ve been doing this for years and have the power & resources to continually leave you Negative Feedbacks resulting in the closing of your business.

Think about this, if you try to report us to eBay and they try and suspend our account or something like that, it will not stop us whatsoever. Remember, I said we have 100’s if not 1,000’s of eBay Users in place that we can use to leave you Negative Feedbacks over & over again until you are forced to shut your business down that you worked so hard to build up.

Even if eBay were to keep suspending our user accounts, we have plenty more that we can use to keep leaving you Negative Feedbacks and there’s No way that eBay can keep up and stop us. They have tried & failed miserably. They also know about what we do. So the best and smartest thing that you can do is protect your business and just purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks from us. That way, it’s done and over with and you can successfully continue to run your business without ever hearing from us again.

We will give you up to 72 hours from now, to reply. The sooner, the better of course. Just send us an email stating that you want to purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks from us and let us know your main email that you use so we can contact you.

If we don’t hear from you by the end of the 72 hours, we will assume that you are refusing to cooperate and we will start leaving you Negative Feedbacks. So don’t do anything stupid. The smartest thing that you can do is take this seriously, we know what we’re doing. After we hear your reply to this email, we will contact you with further instructions.

[sniperace66]

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It was bound to happen sooner or later but I really didn’t think it would be so soon.
But this looks like a guy just trying to get money and can’t backup his statements
just trying to scare the seller into submitting. Could even be a seller himself trying
to make eBay see the error of their ways.

I don’t think ebay will keep these feedback polices stay for long the more they get
These kind of buyer scams they should see this feedback polices was a stupid idea
and maybe fire the guy’s that thought it up (Donna _Who):D

[DealsHQ]

Yeah and yesterday, i had to close about 5 non paying bidders disputes and i could not even leave the dead beat bidders a feedback to warn other sellers --Ebay's feedback system is out of balance.

[Lanascountry]

So ebay runs off the sellers..where the buyers gonna go?? :D
Donna-who will ruin in 6-12 months what it took ebay 12 years to build!

On my last ebay report (I think I posted it) where this fellow I know had
100% PERFECT FB and they gave him 3 STRIKES for NEUTRALS!! Leaving him
with a HORRIBLE DSR rate and like 97 something % FB..How sad is that?:(

[mj-trading]

You can bet your boots there going to try this feedback scan on other sites too! Be prepared!
Did this guy turn them in?

[Lanascountry]

John..I agree I KNOW it will show up on other sites, but at least we can
give appropriate FB to protect ourselves and OTHER good sellers (somewhat) if needed.
Yes, this has been reported to internet fraud, and FBI online. Also all the big chat groups
as well as even on ebay, it is being discussed. I understand that Ina Steiner (spelling?)
on AUCTION BYTES has it now, but I have not heard her report yet. I KNOW that she will,
and I will report it as soon as I see it there.

[joriemay]

Here is what I would do..
I would first notify eBay in writing, sending them a written notice sending it registered mail of what is going on, notify the FBI as well. Tell the sender to go suck an egg then wait. If the negatives appear I would demand eBay remove them immediately and if they don't I would file a law suit against them for loss of business, damages and collusion.if I have that one right..what is that when you stand by and allow a crime to happen and do nothing??? Anyway....
Secondly I would notify every news organization I could find and see how many will print what is happening. If you can get CNN, USAToday, etc to pick up the story then no matter what ebay does or doesn't do you win.
If all you do is whine because the feds won't help then it's your own fault. If you work damned hard to build a business with eBay and they do nothing then they are just as guilty as the perpetrator in this case and I think a jury might just slap the snot out of them quicker than they can spell ebay...
If someone tries to extort you like that and just cry when it happens then in my opinion you pretty much have it coming to you.

That's my take. If I were you guys, webidz I would be praying eBay do nothing.. That would be the best thing that could happen here.. but again, that's my take on things. ;)

[joriemay]

Oh yeah, Here's what I read on what eBay is doing to kill business for the little sellers:
They want all the little sellers gone and want to only do business with the big corporations and the BIG power sellers so they give them every break under the sun and everyone else.. You get it.. They give all us the shaft, say goodbye and then F**k you very much.. What do they have left? They have BIG corporate accounts and not to many headaches from all the little people who know little if anything of how business really works. They don't want to have to deal with every mom and pop and the stupid, constant idiotic questions so they can deal only with people who know the system in and out, always have cash on hand to pay their bills and not worry about us.
They make it super tough on sellers and do utterly nothing to the rotten unscrupulous buyers and then what? You figure it out. It wouldn't surprise me if the whole gig above wasn't conspired by ebay themselves.. Make it come back and bite them in the ass.

[unclejunk1]

Strong words! Good to vent once in a while. Ebay is not going out of business even if a big law suit is won. We can stand around all day and complain and nothing gets done. Something said a little earlier does make me wonder! Bad publicity is one avenue but another is stopping exposure by people in visible positions. Jay Leno, Ellen Show - Oprah. I have seen them do things in conjunction with ebay on their shows. Ebay wins by getting free publicity that would otherwise cost millions. Why not let these shows know that what they are doing is hurting the little guy and the little guy's watch their show. Better yet contact the sponsers advertising on these shows and complain about the use of ebay. Let them know you will stop watching the show and using their products if it continues. Hit them in the pocket and they listen.

[pineacres65]

Hi I am also a seller on Ebay and in the past month have file numerous dispute it seems ebay has a lot of new buyers with less then 0 feed back some with minous feed back and nothing has been done to correct the problem,the new buyers feel they now own ebay,I just file a dispute for a trailer the discription say pick up only the guy bid and paid and thought I should deliver it to his house free of charge ,this is the new ebay,so now in another dispute to get this fixed which of course it never will be:(

[Lanascountry]

Pine, I am so sorry this has occurred for you, and we are hearing it more
everyday! It is so sad, as we all used to sell there, have fun, have customers who ACTUALLY
became good FRIENDS over the years. What I can not believe is that ebay could be THIS
stupid. I have already seen folks that had 100% PERFECT FB and had a fine reputation in
quality, service, and outstanding performance, who have already been REMOVED from
ebay..I find it heartbreaking as I still have friends and close family at the bay..very sad.:(

[pineacres65]

Hi thank you for your concern it has been a nightmare for all sellers on ebay thats why sites like this are going to make headlines and will out do ebay it may take time but it will happen ,I have been putting posters and email customers and giving out business card with this sites name every where I go here in Wi and being I live by the UP of Mich. I am putting them out there to,just hope that people come and look and sign up we need all we can get and I know business will pick up and so will sales,I wish all sellers on this site make money so we can all be happy again
From the disgruntle ebay seller

[joriemay]

I'm only a month and some change from turning 50 and I have lived this long without eBay. If they allow some twit to extort me for feedback I won't do business with them period. I lived this long without them and I assume I'll live a lot longer without them. The extorter will get zilch from me, ebay might get my last fee and life will go on.
On the other hand.. a lot of sellers have brought this upon themselves by extorting positives from buyers. Personally.. I think they should change the rules.. weigh everything evenly and when someone has X amount of complaints they're gone and the same goes for sellers as well as buyers. In the real world thats how it works and ebay is not immune from the rest of society as are sellers or buyers.
If you or me walked into the little store and told Mr Jones, shopkeeper that we are going to picket his store if he doesn't sell a jar of peanut butter for 10 cents he might laugh, but chances are he'll kick your butt and throw you out. The same holds true if Mr. Jones tells you that same jar of peanut butter now costs $30.. You'll laugh his butt out of the neighborhood. Thats what I think... If you're a buyer and you have so many negs inwithin so many buys you're gone period and the same with sellers.. Just boot out the rotten eggs and let honest people do business as usual....period.

[Lanascountry]

I agree Jorie!! Why can't the ebay 'GENIUSES' see that simple logic..I KEPT my FB
there FINE 100% by going the extra mile, sometimes 4 or 5. If a customer had a legitimate compliant,
I made it good..no question. I only got burned really bad one time..it was for $250.00!! My did that
hurt..the lady was thrown off ebay days after she stole thousands of dollars in product FROM
sellers on ebay. :mad:

[pineacres65]

Hi Joriemay at 50 your a yongster in my book and yes your right there are bad sellers and bad buyers,but it seems the bad buyers out do the bad sellers lately I had 100% feed back untill recently now I,m down to 99.5% so what can we do other then find a new home ans I for one have have a good week

[TheeGman]

As another former feebay seller I agree with every post. Ebay is all about the "Powerseller" that makes those greedy pigs all their money. I had 100% positive feedback until a seller that had well over 1,000 negatives in one month, left me a retaliatory negative feedback when I left him one after contacting him about an item not received after constantly trying to get in touch with them and waiting over a month, but he had 15,000+ positives so ebay didn't care and would not remove the negative feedback form me. Well two weeks later they finally kicked the seller off but the negative feedback remained. Another example was a buyer from India who won one of my items even though I only ship to North America was stated in the shipping terms and item details. Well, I decided to be nice and researched the charges and forms and told him I would ship it. He contacted me and said ok. One month later - no payment - no contact, filed a npb dispute and promptly received a negative feedback from him for a transaction that never occured. Needless to say ebay did nothing about that either! Sorry about rambling on :eek:

[unclejunk1]

Sure is good to see all the new faces! What ever brought you here - Welcome! Back to the subject, my guess is that somewhere along the way at ebay you stood up for yourself. That is a no no at the bay! You must follow their rules in silence and tow the line their way - you don't count nor does your opinion - got it? Ok now you are ready to go back and be slaves. Or stay here and build the best site ever. List as much as possible and buy as much as possible those are the hardest rules here. The rest is just what normal people do. Some of us are over fifty - I will not admit it but its true! Lana is still a spring chicken. Kathy has a teenager so she must be at least close to thirty since she married when she was twelve. :D John I am not sure about, never lets on about age so he is probably hiding something. Roz - hum, Roz are you a spring chicken too? Well she may be mad at me now. Anyway you guys enjoy the site and forget the problems at the other place, settle in grab something cold - its hot outside and relax.

[Lanascountry]

Rick, OH OFF TOPIC!! I am 60 >>SIXTY<< next month !!
(thanks!!! :D) I think I am the oldest ACTIVE member here.
I was at ebay in some form since day one..lol, it used to be soooo fun! (AND lucratve)
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[pineacres65]

Hi Lana no your not the oldest your a youngster did you see the 65 in my name well I also had a birthday just recently so guess what I think I beat you LOL

[Lanascountry]

:DThank you..you made my evening Pine!! :D

[katandron1]

OHHHH Yall are funny..........
Since I married when I was 12:eek:.....I have 2 teens and a 10 yr old......
And just turned 37 !

So does that make the the youngest here???

[katandron1]

Btw......that being married at 12 is according to Rick LOL

[unclejunk1]

Oh come on you know you were a child bride!

[Lanascountry]

She is the age of my baby daughter! :D

[greylian]

As soon as I heard about the new ebay rules I knew this would happen. Someone else said so too and thought it would take longer...really? I knew it would start right away. Come on...before this rule was set up people would try crap like this. I have had people win and think I would mail to where I didn't & for the same price at that! I have had people leave me unfair feedback and ebay do nothing about it...even though they could look and see that it was b/s that the buyer was doing and they could see plain as day they were doing it to more than one seller. I have had people win and think I should mail items for way less than what actual shipping would be...shipping prices were listed clearly in several places but that's ok I guess I should send it for free and lose money huh? I have had people try and pull switcheroos on me (buying something & when they get it, say it didn't work so they could return their broken one). I have gotten negatives from buyers who tried that as well. While all along I have been good and did what I was supposed to. I never did any of this crap to people. I put up with it...but no more. I have refused to list anything else on ebay because of their last batch of rules. I can't wait for this site to take off...I listed a few things and no one bid...I looked around and I think there are more sellers than buyers. Am I right on that one? Is everyone selling and not really buying? I didn't really see to many bids out there. Just wondered...maybe it is what I had listed? I just know it would have sold on ebay...and I have other things too...but I think I will wait a little while longer...wait for more to come over from ebay.

[Lanascountry]

Update: Full credit to:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/80142-ebay-culling-the-herd
By: John LaRouche




eBay Culling the Herd?
by: John LaRouche posted on: June 05, 2008 | about stocks: EBAY

The "buzz" this week is that on line auctions are falling to the wayside in favor of fixed priced venues. Is it possible that the CEO of eBay (EBAY) has access to a crystal ball (or medium), which told him that the future of on line auctions is not in eBay's future? Or, is all this "buzz" the result of eBay sellers simply being maneuvered to leave eBay on their own accord and/or adapt to a 100% fixed price format?

It would be unreasonable to think that eBay sellers would wake up today and find an eBay announcement proclaiming that eBay will no longer be an auction venue by the end of 2008. Then again, eBay recently made an announcement that eBay Live Auctions will close by the end of 2008 and while it's not known how much revenue eBay Live Auctions generated for eBay in 2007, their partner, Live Auctioneers, LLC reportedly earned $100M in 2007. If this number is true (as reported by Live Auctioneers, LLC) one has to wonder how much of Live Auctioneers revenues contributed to eBay's bottom line.

The next question would be, "what Fortune 500 company gives up any part of $100M in revenues", especially in these uncertain economic times?

The changes to eBay during the past few months have been dramatic. eBay sellers have responded to these changes by posting negative You-Tube videos, blogs, articles, posts, organizing boycotts and sharing their negative experiences with both eBay and PayPal. The CEO of eBay has referred to all of the negative press as "noise". However, the "noise" has elevated to a point where eBay sellers are spreading their wings and flying the coop!

Is this what eBay wants?

In my humble opinion, eBay is strong enough (financially) to withstand eBay sellers who refuse to adapt to change. If the end goal is to move eBay to a "pure" fixed price format venue, eBay sellers who adapt to the current changes and those who sell exclusively through BIN (Buy it Now), may benefit in the long run.

Could their be a culling of eBay sellers in progress? Culling is the process of picking out others, especially something rejected because of inferior quality. In other words, the "herd" of eBay sellers may be being thinned out in order to move forward with a grander plan.

The name "eBay" can stand for anything..

While the brand has come to designate eBay as the on line auction giant, what's in a name? eBay has methodically acquired and/or launched mini-venues (within its own venue) for quite some time. Half.com, Shopping.com and StubHub.com are good examples of what a venue can do to cull the herd from within.

There are some benefits to eBay in moving to a "pure" fixed priced format:

Increased buyer satisfaction.
Reduced fraud.
Reduction in labor force.
Can eBay morph itself into another Amazon?

While eBay could begin building fulfillment centers across the United States, this process would take some time. Those holding eBay stock (in long positions), might have some patience but, it's might be unreasonable to expect shareholders to "watch and wait" while eBay reinvents its business model. This may be where the help of others is needed.

The deal (partnership) with Buy.com may prove that eBay can open its core to partners, who can flood the marketplace with merchandise. Buy.com did just that by listing 500,000 items for sale on eBay, however, their sell-through rate of 5% was a bit disappointing.

Who suffered from the Buy.com flood?

eBay sellers offering merchandise in the same categories. What eBay may or may have not overlooked is that sellers are buyers, buyers become sellers and it can be one glorious food chain - if balanced correctly. The invitation to Buy.com to flood eBay core with BIN's, upset that delicate balance.

What's NOT fair?

Those selling on eBay have little recourse against bad buyers. Sellers can no longer leave negative feedback against those buyers who abuse, berate and threaten to leave negative feedback if the seller does not bend over backwards to please them. Those who worked for years to build their eBay feedback did so for nothing.

eBay decided that only the last twelve months of feedback makes a difference. In addition, eBay sellers quickly learned that neutrals turned into a "new kind of negative" and many found their overall feedback percentages had declined to the point of the last straw. Just how many straws can placed on the camels back before it breaks?

Why include neutrals into the equation at all? What was the purpose? Who did it help, who did it hurt? Here's some speculation..

There was nothing to be gained by calculating neutrals back into overall feedback percentages. Neutrals are just that "neutral". The transaction was neither good nor bad. No doubt, the decision to count neutrals into the overall scheme of feedback percentages was bad for the sellers (only). There was absolutely no purpose (no foreseeable gain) to eBay in upsetting its sellers - unless you want to "cull" the herd.

How does it ALL add up?

Judging from what could only be described as a "Seller Exodus" off of eBay (coupled with the major changes), one might think that eBay has a long-term plan. It may be that the plan for the future was concocted when Amazon leap frogged over eBay with stellar earnings reports.

Meg Whitman retires and Bill Cobb is on his way out. The eBay seller conference for 2009 has been canceled and eBay's new CEO (for better or worse) has taken hold of the helm of the ship with a map in hand, however, he may be in need of a GPS for a more accurate read on eBay's final destination.

[pineacres65]

Hi Everyone I was wondering if any one read the auction bytes blog about the buyer that won 48 auctions left 48 neg feed backs and never paid for one item selllers that contacted ebay were told they deserved the feed back how about that one

[samiamsxa]

i am not surprised. I am an ebay seller and hoping that this place (webidz) is the answer to my prayers cause ebay changes are a nightmare! although i wish i could show everyone here my ebay feedback so people know for sure that i am trustworthy, i hate to pat myself on the back but i do have some great feedback hahaha

[katandron1]

OHHH but you can bring your feedback with you........jump on over to Repatoo.com, join....create a badge like my white and green one,,,,copy the BBcode, then go to user Cp top of this page, blue bar, click edit signature, and paste the code.....save/proceed, and whalaaa your feedback from ebay or several other sites you may have sold on.

[angelsolutions]

Hey Sam,

You can show off that eBay feedback! Take a look at this thread:

http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=6777

Then you can get one of these nifty Repatoo banners! :D

sylvia

[samiamsxa]

no seriously ...you guys rock LOL thanks, you just made my night! i am going do it now!

[jtsspecialties]

Welcome aboard Sam glad to have ya here. come on over and play some hangman with us sometime. Look forward to seeing ya there.:)

Angel that Blog community Badge is killer i like that:cool:

[DealsHQ]

I got ripped by paypal today, customer said they never got the item, i provided paypal with a tracking number and they still took my money --it's crazy --sellers have no protection.
I also got a new neutral for slow shipping and the guy got the dvd in like 7 days but i couldn't give anything but a good feedback to him.
I'm so sick of this type of treatment.

[unclejunk1]

Hello Deals! What a great day at Webidz! Lord knows we don't want to say anything bad about the great god of online auctions but when you get tired of bowing down to that graven idol, you know where to move the stuff. We have all read so many stories on what the final game plan of ebay's is but , the truth is you need to take care of you more than them. Consider another online payment source and move your funds to them. Spread your wings and fly for you are now free my son! That my friend is the word and the word is good.

[Lanascountry]

I got ripped by paypal today, customer said they never got the item, i provided paypal with a tracking number and they still took my money --it's crazy --sellers have no protection.
I also got a new neutral for slow shipping and the guy got the dvd in like 7 days but i couldn't give anything but a good feedback to him. I'm so sick of this type of treatment.



Did you also know that feebay is using 'neutrals' as strikes now?? I gotta tell you something that
happened to me a couple of years ago..you ARE going to think I am nutz (for sure) this happened!! :D

A lady purchased jewelry from me and the final bid was just OVER $250.00. With ship/insure almost
$265.00!! Well long story short..the lady emailed me that she received the package VERY quickly was
THRILLED with her 'jewels'! BEST feedback had been left by both. I had ALL records, insure, DC,
delivery shown online..PLUS positive feedback!! :confused:The lady did a charge back on me and got
all her money back with her charge card..She pulled this a few times to the tune of several thousand..
A week later she was NARU'd from ebay with mine and about 10 other sellers money AND ITEMS
in her pocket..:eek::mad:

USE RME..is all I say!! (IMHO)

[unclejunk1]

Lana, I know you are aware that the bay is only using feedback given within the last 12 months now. Point - you get one bad feedback and your rating plummits. A netural is considered bad. Deals move your stuff and move it now. No joke, spread it around if you must but move it. So far I have heard nothing bad about RME but it is not the only one if you are not comfortable with them. Again point is get away as soon as you can - run don't walk.

[Pchykeen]

I left eBay because I got tired of all the policy changes and the high fees. I was paying up to $80.00 a month and getting nothing, but a hard time from buyers and eBay alike. Now sellers have no recourse when dealing with a deadbeat buyer!! I closed shop on eBay and came here instead. Hopefully business will pick up soon, but at least I am not paying a ton of money to a website that does nothing for it's sellers (uless you're a Powerseller or a big business).

[angelsolutions]

You're not alone, pchy...and even the powersellers have had enough now, lemme tell ya. They're pretty sick and tired of the 'bay.

But their loss is our gain and I'm sure glad you're here! :)

sylvia

[AVE]

I started out well on ebay last year which encouraged me to list more and more. My avg pc was then selling for about $10 but then ebay was encouraging us to drop starting bids and shipping so I did... naiively...
next thing I jknow I was selling things for close to nothing and with lowered shipping so I took a beating.After Christmas my avg sale was $2 By the time ebay and paypal fees were taken, along with postage I was lucky to break even with my bank account and all my time and work was for nothing.After 3 consecutive months of owing sellers fees that didnt balance out with sales succeeded, I started looking around online and joined here and a couple of other smaller auctions. I have had only a few sales on each but at least am not getting slapped with the high seller fees anymore.
I havent posted anything new on ebay in over a month.
I signed up for RME but hit some snag as I dont have a cell phone and something or other didnt go through by a certain date, so I havent yet reapplied. On line stuff gets confusing to me so if a sign up for anything hits a snag, I drop it. I still have Paypal, but do accept checks and money orders [which is slower but cheaper]
I also noticed on Paypal they are hitting me with a $.30 fee plus the percentage, which really hurts when an item sells for only $.95~ I have begun to pass that surcharge onto my customers, which it is still cheaper than them sending a check or money order, but what can you to do on low priced auctions?
I hope this site continues to grow .
:)

[unclejunk1]

Ave, for goodness sake don't give up on RME. There are no sellers fees so it is worth your time to get it set up. You have a nice banner showing but it does not take you to your store when clicked on. Please get with Lana or Kathy for a banner like mine that folks can click on and goes automatically to your store. please do keep posting to, it lets people know about you.

[Lanascountry]

Ave.. I am gonna get your banner fixed..BRB with that.. also.. Why do you need a cell phone
for RME? I don't have one, and registered within 5 minutes.

[katandron1]

I to hit a snag with RME, but it was due to me changing the name on my SS card this year, right before signing up.
They do have a 1-800 # to call (you can find it on their site) and have been nothing but helpful to get me straightened out. Lost my $25 dollars because of my laziness in providing them the info they needed, but ohh well. I'm in it for the free transactions between account holders anyhow.
Give em a call, see what you can get worked out. They are really helpful on the phone.

[Lanascountry]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/lana-country/ARCHIVE/ahipauypalgift_cert_logo.jpg



Ave, please copy everything inside of the box and go to UserCP under signature paste it
there and click save..you have a banner. I have a very hard time finding your auctions,
and you have great things!

[url=http://www.webidz.com/shop.php?parent_id=2238&user_id=20942]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/lana-country/ARCHIVE/ahipauypalgift_cert_logo.jpg (http://www.webidz.com/shop.php?parent_id=2238&user_id=20942)
Click above to take you to your auction/store!

[angelsolutions]

I'm going to start looking into using RME more now that I'm listing on auction sites again. My shopping cart can't use it, so I kinda forgot about it after I signed up.

I still use Paypal on my shopping cart, but I've noticed that people are using it to pay with their credit cards - they aren't actually members of Paypal (that's from my personal store). And just a little over half are using Google Checkout now. Who'da thunk? I'm REAL happy with Google Checkout. Love it!

*tying another string on my fingers to remember to add RME to my payment preferences here* LOL

sylvia

[Lanascountry]

Syl, We are using RME on ALL our alt sites and have not had a no-pay,
stop-pay, no complaints. We LOVE it but this is JMHO!! :D

Just got to get our money OUT of pay/more/PAL!

[angelsolutions]

Actually have only had a problem with Paypal once EVER, but that was enough. My account was put on a 21 day hold, too. Enough of *that* I'll tell ya. :rolleyes: I encourage Google Checkout as much as possible as the funds go directly into my business checking account. To fulfill orders, I use a Mastercard branded debit card. Smoooooooth sailing on that side!

Been pondering removing PP from my cart altogether....still pondering. LOL

sylvia

[pineacres65]

Hi Me to will have to look into Google also paypal is going to the dogs,I am in the middle of another dispute and this one is driving me crazy the buyer bought a item then decided it was not what he wanted so I told him to ship it back and would refund his money but now he feels I owe him for pain and suffering at and extra $20.00 over what he paid and I also should pay the shipping back,I notified ebay and paypal after getting another bad feed back,they said that they did not think they could do anything about it except return his money,My last Item went off yesterday and I told ebay exactly what they could do with there auctions and it wasnt nice,I also sent then the emails I received from him that ment nothing to them,it seems thing are not getting better there,they better find a new CEO and soon

[Lanascountry]

Pine..we have been saying for MONTHS on PSU that DONNA-WHO? is gonna BURY
what is LEFT of ebay..I think it is a PLAN! :eek:

[unclejunk1]

Hello Pineacres! You have done what you need to do. Now be smarter than me and forget them. Move on, the stress will do harm to your body. Make a new home and forget them is my advice. Sure wish I could do the same!:eek: I fought it for years - this is not entirely new. Feedback has been messed up for sometime, it just got much worse. I got an undeserved bad one a few months back and it put me at 98% now with the changes and no more bad ones it dropped to around 96% with no activity - go figure! They hold all the cards and they know it so get out of the fixed game!

[pineacres65]

Hi Unclejunk your so right I have drop to 99% and going down ,it has been a nightmare,my wife thinks it may get better but I dont agree thats why I have stop listing now,were to old to handle the hassel anymore,we used it as a second income but yes its time to leave,and try to make it somewhere else,my wife likes the way webidz site is set up ,because she helps me sometime,so we will keep trying to inprove and go on
and good luck to you if you stay with ebay if not good luck any where you go

[unclejunk1]

Thanks Pineacres! But I am right here and have not listed on ebay in quite a while. I have tried many other sites but this one is by far the best. There are some other good ones but I prefer this one. I say that because you may want to list on more than one site until you get the volume you need. I used to try listing on ebay and three or four others but ebay drives you nuts!!!

Best of luck!

Rick

[DealsHQ]

Hey , just something i have noticed......now that ebay has this new feedback policy i have got more non paying bidders bidding on my stuff and not paying then ever before ---i've had like 20 NPB after this new policy and i never got very many before.
Has anyone else that still sells on ebay noticed this?

[bumpers53]

I agree that there is way too many 0 feedback buyers on ebay, the sad part is that is where we all started but you can't tell the honest first time buyer from the ones doing it to cheat people. I left ebay because I could not afford the fees and though was fortunate to not have had a bad experience feel that it was happening way too much to others for comfort. I was a small time seller (and still am) plus liked to buy every so often and there were just way too many 0 feedbacks when looking for items to buy that bid against me for my comfort. I remember when I would recieve a bid from a 0 feedback just hoping that someone with good feedback would outbid them but even now you don't know if the bad feedback is legit or not because they are leaving it for people who don't deserve the bad rating also.

[unclejunk1]

Feedback at ebay is worthless now. You cannot give a bad buyer a negative so how will anyone know who to deal with? Only the last 12 months count anymore so if you get an undeserved bad one you are in trouble. This whole thing is making it bad for all sites. Maybe feedback should be eliminated completely and do what the admin. does here -- kick the trouble makers off and be done with it. Or freewill comments could be tallied in the forums. Or simply a vote that gives you a rating after the sale or purchase. You give good value and good service then the customer will want to vote for you. You do something wrong and they can give a bad vote with a comment - that comment can be examined by a panel of people experienced enough to determine if it is fair or not. Unfair comments or votes reversed and undeserved positives removed to prevent cheating. There has to be checks and balances.

[Lanascountry]

Rick, I think what you said is excellent and could work well on the small
sites. I think (on ALL sites) we are going to find more and more babies and idiots
that have nothing better to do than zap in bids that they have NO intention of honoring.
Even some that run a sellers bids up, and do not pay! :mad:

A LOT of people will NOT sell on ebay now at all, as you stand a very good chance of
having your online reputation damaged for all sites. There is reliable feedback sites like
REPATOO and your past (good/bad) can and will follow you.

[mj-trading]

I agree with you Uncle! Admin should dump other sites feedback (This isn;t against you Repatoo) and just use the Webidz Feedback! The more now days a person see's the Ebay name out there the more it is going to hurt other sites! People will start seeing how bad Ebay is and figure boy that seller is on this site too and look at his ebay feedback! Well i'll stay away from this site too they will say!
Admin should realy look at this tho! Only Webidz feedback allowed!
I know this will ruffle some feathers but it is not meant to be!! LOOK AT THE FUTURE!

[Lanascountry]

Don't ruffle my feathers, but I worked VERY hard for my near PERFECT feedback
in the THOUSANDS (some not even on REPATOO) and I will KEEP mine!:rolleyes:
JB & I would be so pleased for folks to see OURS everywhere!:D

[unclejunk1]

Lana, I believe what John is trying to tell you is that ebay feedback is going the way of Confederate money after the war ended. Made pretty good wallpaper but that was all. I think he is right - soon it is something you will not be proud to show. It could even make you look bad. No-one wants to lose a good reputation but when it becomes a libility instead of an assit- you think twice. Ebay went to far this time. We do as John said need to look to the future and maybe even take the gamble of being the leader here. Someone needs to put forth the first step in showing credibility again.

[Lanascountry]

Bumpers, One thing I notice that is amazing to me is how ebay can now
give a NEGATIVE strike for a NEUTRAL...!! It is outrageous! Negative and neutral
are NOT the same thing at all!:mad:
(They are just doing whatever they want to people's reputations and accounts!):eek: (IMO)
I HOPE we NEVER have to sell there again!

[unclejunk1]

Folks that have been around for a while will know the old ratings were earned the hard way and some even went through the wild west period intact. The real problem is what they are doing to it now! Everything from this point forward is in question. I will not mention names here but I had a guy just yesterday whom I believe is fine refer to his rating at ebay, a real good rating for buying. Next year at this time I will not consider his rating as having value if it is from ebay. Does that tell you anything?

[mj-trading]

What Uncle said is what i'm trying to say! We all worked hard for them! But like Uncle says! In the long run it could hurt you two! Someone said that Ebay is only going to take the feedback for the last 12 months? What will a person feedback look like then when they haven't sold on ebay for 12 months? All of us now must start looking at the future now! Ebay stunts will eventually will hurt any other auction site that keeps on using Ebay name somewere in the site! ( I know tpart didn't come out exactly the way i meant it, but maybe you'll know what i mean)

[unclejunk1]

They are already using just the last 12 months for feedback. Worse is the extortion going on. The fact you cannot leave a negative for a bad buyer makes the whole thing worthless.

[mj-trading]

Yep! Ebay is just getting a Bad Name all around What there doing to Sellers now! Some Buyers think it is sweet! Buyers just wait tho! I'm sure Ebay has something up there sleeve for Buyers next! When they do then Ebay might as well close it's doors! Will not be NO SELLERS OR BUYERS LEFT!

I think Ebay CEO sniff to much Glue!:rolleyes:

[unclejunk1]

I hope we did not upset Lana. Glue, hum - you think! They better save some of that glue to hold the seams of that place together

[mj-trading]

Well it's just the truth whats gong to happen!

[Lanascountry]

You know I don't upset easy and actually LOVE a debate..You know what I
was just thinking..(I am winding down for my real world work tomorrow, and was watching
a movie),
Now READ, don't just respond PLEASE..Mr J and Unca Rick you are BOTH right you know
what I have not made a sale and closed our stores at ebay in early January, 2008..you
know what IF we do not sell anything..we will have '0' % feedback in 2009 (at ebay)??!! .. I wonder how
many folks have thought of that..Think this is another way for that company to try to hold us and
our hard earned feedback ransom?? (IMHO) this is EBAY'S part in the extortion!:mad:
PLUS that stinkin' DSR rate..if someone gives you a '4' ..we
and ebay know that is BAD, they are telling the customer that is good..
Donna-Who is burying ebay..I am glad he is not with WAL*MART stores anymore..becuase
I AM!! :rolleyes:

[Lanascountry]

This does not really pertain to ebay feedback extortion but I felt some of you
might find it of interest..wonder if RME will be next?? :(
(We HAVE seen this coming)!

http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571

[sniperace66]

http://home.comcast.net/~waltshop1/Images/image003.gif (http://www.electronicandhome.com/)

Ok what we as sellers need to do is find anything that eBay are doing wrong and report it to the better business bureau
And tell eBay that you are reporting them. I gave them a 3 day warning to change their description on how the neutral
Feedback is counted or I was going to report them. They are lying to the buyer that a neutral feedback does not count towards
A seller’s feedback score this is against the law and they can be sued for it. Could you imagine the law suit if every seller
Sued them? Check it out http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/feedback.html

Aim sure there are other violations they are committing I just don’t have the time to investigate them all
But as I said if we all get together we can find more and force eBay to comply with the laws

[Lanascountry]

Ace..ebay won't comply ..they think they ARE a law unto themselves..BUT..the time
is coming and is near..they WILL be forced to see/admit? :rolleyes:their own errors and (IMHO)
devious strategies. We at PSU have been dealing with ebays lies and double talk
ACTIVELY for nearly 4 years..:confused:
This is ridiculous !!
On their very OWN feedback page it says>>

A neutral rating has no impact on the Feedback Score.

Yet I see numerous sellers who received neutrals PRIOR to the May FB changes that NO LONGER
have 100% FEEDBACK..How I ask you..is that is possible? (with NO negatives during that 1 year)
IT ISN'T!!
I see this>>>


A neutral rating has no impact on the Feedback Score.

TOTALLY FALSE..in their OWN feedback descriptions!:mad:

[sniperace66]

http://home.comcast.net/~waltshop1/Images/image003.gif (http://www.electronicandhome.com/)

Well it will take all sellers to report them and the bbb will take action but this will take a lot of
Corporation from sellers if the bbb gets enough complaints it will take action .

[Lanascountry]

Well we have at least 10,000 ACTIVE members at PSU and many more on our list..
Wonder if 6-8,000 complaints to BBB could start it, Ace? :confused:

[sniperace66]

http://home.comcast.net/~waltshop1/Images/image003.gif (http://www.electronicandhome.com/)

Get the evidence and that would be a very good start:D
i informed them today and come tuesday i will report them on false
advertising. The links i got is enought proof

[bumpers53]

I definitely will report them as I have one neutral and all the rest of my feedback is 100% and the neutral wouldn't you know was on a vintage dooney & bourke handbag that I had buffed and worked with to make sure it was beautiful before sending it off to my buyer. I did such a good job I really wanted to keep it but that is what I do I get them vintage when I can and clean them, buff them with good leather conditioner to bring their beauty back out and this one was in primo condition to start with for vintage The seller came back and gave me a neutral saying it was more used than she expected without contacting me, the sad part is I would have taken it back gladly. So now because of it my feedback shows 98% which is sad because the handbag was like new inside and the bottom had two small scratches which I buffed and you could hardly see them unless you looked really close.

[fnfreek915]

There are several class action lawsuits being compiled against ebay for a variety of reasons. Most of these suits are being brought by 7 + years sales people that have had 5 to 10 thousand sales with 100% feedback and now have negatives and neutrals. It`s really a shame that ebay has to be run by indians which are known for running businesses into the ground. People from india get an interest free, 7 year loan to start a business and a free car. Americans get a hard time from just about everyone to start a business.
Well with ebay screwing up everyone`s lives, including mine, I am here to try something new.

[Lanascountry]

They are so nasty IMHO..like I said a 'LAW UNTO THEMSELVES' (they THINK)..
and their OWN feedback page STILL says this>>>

A neutral rating has no impact on the Feedback Score.
They are LYING even to the BUYERS! :mad:

FN..you cannot lose..try different..JB & I left as SILVER level power sellers there
almost FOUR years ago..and in regard to your comments..some I agree with the
workers of America..(NOT just at ebay) are becoming very discontent with 'paying'
for everyone else..(JMHO that I AM entitled to) :D

[Kapu]

Yeah and yesterday, i had to close about 5 non paying bidders disputes and i could not even leave the dead beat bidders a feedback to warn other sellers --Ebay's feedback system is out of balance.

This is why I left ebay. I have 100% positive there, but have had 3 instances where deadbeat buyers threatened me with neg feedback, or didn't reply to my messages. Since I had the ability to leave them neg. fdbk, they didn't dare follow through. Each instance, I contacted ebay and told them, even showed them the emails. Their reply? "We have no say over what type of feedback a buyer leaves." Very comforting. Now since I, as a seller, am only allowed positive for a buyer, where is my recourse? I contacted ebay several times about this new policy and was shut down. I told them I had already found another auction site that doesn't penalize sellers, and they didn't care. :mad:

[chfisher]

All you can do through Ebay is require immediate payment, which requires that you include a shipping price. I also signed up with Reliabid, they go after non payers and wreck their credit, they also turn them over for collection. Supposedly it works 99 percent. Hey, I just signed up here after 7 years on Ebay, now I'M a Newbie!!!

[pineacres65]

Hi everybody Has anyone seen all the stuff that went on at ebay live I guess nobody got any answers there either,most left there just as mad as when they got there the first day but have to laugh at all the booing that the board got when they talked about the changes being a good thing ,its what they deserve,I was reading all the comments at Power sellers unite ,I guess its not just the small sellers they want to oust but the big guys to, Ebay is going to be short lived if they keep that up LOL

[Lanascountry]

Yeppers Pine, it just goes on and on..think ebay will change at all before they
are HISTORY? :rolleyes:

I wanted to ask a question of members here as well..has anyone (that has not sold anything there
for quite a while) My DSR ratings are FALLING, and I have NOT even BEEN there..How can they
possibly explain that?? If I WERE to go back, even though I have 100%, it would look to my old
buyers that my DSR was NOT a 100%!! Just wanted to know if anyone else notices their's falling?

Thanks Yal! :confused:

[DealsHQ]

My guess would be that your score is falling bacause of their new rule of feedback only counting 12 months at a time --so the 13th month would be deleted and therefore change your score.
As for the boo at the ebay meeting..i hadn't heard anything..someone got a link?
My non paying bidders at ebay are still going up.
Did anyone else get the "List 5 items for free " thing from ebay? lol i think they are feeling the pinch.

I have really cut my auctions back at ebay.

[Lanascountry]

LOL, Deals I am interested in that 'booing' thing as well and I am PROUD
of those sellers.,.Must NOT be quite as afraid of their shadows as they used
to be..huh?:rolleyes:
The way I see it..is.. ebay sellers that don't sell there at all for a year, I THINK will
have 0% feedback. Is that the way you see it, Deals?:confused:

[pineacres65]

the link is http://powersellersunite.com this made interesting reading LOL,I sure have to congradulate those power sellers that claped and booed ,its time ebay has seen for themselfs what a monster they created,and yes in the last month or so my DSR has dropped considerable with all the disputes & treats that I still am dealing with and all the threats of bad feed back,never seen anything like it in my life,I even get email in my personal email program which I never give out on ebay this has never happened before,I guess the new buyers find a target and go after them and when there done your reputaion is distroyed and then they move on to the next sucker in line LOL

[Lanascountry]

Pine..My DSR is falling and I no longer even sell there!! It was perfect.
The reason I know is that 'Channel Vision' host sent me the detail..ODD! :rolleyes:

[pineacres65]

Hi Lana I know things are so messed up there I dont think they even know what they are doing,my son likes to sell on there so sometimes he puts his stuff on my site,he hasnt done it in a while untill this last week he ask if I cared and of course I am not selling so I told him go ahead because I intend on closing up shop there anyhow as soon as the disputes with these none payers get over,I told him maybe they will throw me off there site after all the calls and emails that I had sent them HAHA

[bumpers53]

Well I don't know if they will leave it there but a little get even maybe. I put the web address to my store here in my about me section and in my ebay my world section with a note about moving because their fees got too high. I am hoping it stays long enough to bring some of my loyal customers here.

[pineacres65]

Hi anytime someone post a web site to a store on another site they have been pulling them off due to policy violations if your lucky maybe it wont get notice,but there are people that turn you in for those type of violations,most of it has been in the blogging part when someone mentions another web site,I wish you luck I have sent emails to customers that I saved but who knows they may just want to stay with ebay again maybe they will move on like the sellers

[bumpers53]

Thank you for the warning. I am gonna keep it there til they make me remove it though I read where they cleared the pages of people but thats ok cause I moved here completely and even quit buying there because there seem to be so many problems it just wasn't worth it anymore.

[spooky36]

I used to sell on Ebay years ago and gave up after about 8 months. I stopped because everytime I turned around I was socked with another fee and making even a small profit was nearly impossible.

My thoughts of this new "no negative feedback buyers" that the sellers are now restricted to seems to just facilitate the non payment of auctions and if that is the case, I do not see why every seller on ebay does not include that in the class action suit if it is not already there. Ebay changed their policy and now should be held accountable for the problems it has caused.

Another option, which would take just a few minutes time, would be to set up a "Ebay Bad Buyers list" on one of the sites that allows you to set up Mailing lists. Easy to set up, restricted to members only, and when there was a problem with a buyer, their user name could be posted so the other sellers subscribed could be on the lookout.

It just seems to me that if Ebay has tied the hands of their sellers, then those sellers should seek alternative means to protect themselves. Just my humble opinion.

[Lanascountry]

To me..also just my opinion, Spooky..it would be terrifying to be on ebay.
I worked very hard there for nearly 9 years, achieving as high as SILVER power
seller some of the time, and power seller MUCH of the time. I do not wish to have my
online reputation ruined and I sincerely feel this is going to happen to most sellers there.
I do not understand why any stay.. why I even KNOW people that HAD 100% FB
reputation and since May have been charged back with their neutrals and now do not
even have what I would call respectable feedback..96-97%!! How sad is that??They do
NOT deserve that and how does ebay get away with breaking their OWN TOS and their
own rules..How very sad.. I truly feel for the fine and ethical sellers there.:(

[spooky36]

You're right Lana, it is a very scarey situation to be in. For everyone there who are loyal members and worked hard to make the site what it is and let's face it, if it were not for the sellers setting up business there, what would Ebay have. Nothing. Over the past few months, I have noticed that quite a few of the venders on my favorite list have closed down, some are still registered with empty stores and others have left completely.

Ebay does not care, because no matter what happens after the auction ends, they still get their money. Now if sellers started deducting the amount of money that these deadbeat buyers were costing them from the monthly fees charged by Ebay and it started costing Ebay money instead of the sellers, then you would see them start doing something about it. As long as they still get their money, they do not care.

The only way that site would actually do anything about the current situation, would be if a big percentage of their powersellers started closing up shop. That would hit them in their bottom line and if enough of those sellers left, they would be left with mostly the people that have just a few items they want to get rid of. But like you, it is a slippery slope to travel, if you close up there, where do you go and what happens to your reputation. If Ebay deletes you from their system, your reputation is gone.

Ebay is ruthless in the way they conduct business and would not be surprised if the sellers involved in that class action suit soon find that they no longer have stores on that site. Since they are world wide they would certainly have enough money to keep that suit bouncing around the legal system for years to come and by that time whatever judgment that the plaintiffs would be awarded would be eaten up by legal fees. It really is a no win situation for everyone involved.

Excuse my language, but this whole thing sucks bigtime. But what Ebay fails to concider is that there are a lot of alternative auction sites out here. The only reason Ebay remains so popular is because they have a huge amount of venders. Once they start driving them away, Ebay will start to crumble. They are driving them away with this feedback mess, high fees and their refusal to do anything about the nonpayment situation.

Right now, the best favor you can do for your fellow Ebay sellers is to let them know about this site and invite them to come and look around. Heck the no fees for listings was enough to make me take a good look. Once they establish a store here they can post a "gone to Webidz" on their store fronts and let it go.

Right now there does not seem to be any easy answer or easy solution.

[bamadog_8]

I read on PSU where folks are already getting suspended over out-side links... I thought that new policy doesn't go into effect until sometime in Sept? I started putting the url to my collectibles website in my feedbacks over a year ago (must have had ESP, Huh! LOL) I had planned on closing shop there by July 10th anyway so I went and nabbed all my listing descripts and photos tonight just in case I get suspended or booted off completely.

bamadog_8

[spooky36]

Good move Bamadog, if they boot you nothing will be lost. Looks like most the rules that site now has are just words on paper. But if they are tossing people off, then they are just cutting their own throats. Sort of funny to think that such a big company is so afraid of losing business that it is banning links to outside sites. So to stop it, they boot sellers that are breaking the rule and lose business anyway. Boggles the mind doesn't it.

[DealsHQ]

LOL, Deals I am interested in that 'booing' thing as well and I am PROUD
of those sellers.,.Must NOT be quite as afraid of their shadows as they used
to be..huh?:rolleyes:
The way I see it..is.. ebay sellers that don't sell there at all for a year, I THINK will
have 0% feedback. Is that the way you see it, Deals?:confused:

Yeah that's right on the feedback //my other account on there is down to almost zero as i haven't used it in about 1 years --so your thinking is spot on.

As a side note i have a buyer now who is trying to rip me as he purchased a lot of 10 dvds from me on ebay and is saying they are in poor shape but i guess he forgot i sold them and know they were in good shape --i sure his next move is to say "i'll give you bad feedback" ...lol

[spooky36]

If he tried the very tired feedback ploy, hit him with a nice new one. Tell him you will add him to the Blacklist and he will not be able to buy anything on ebay under his existing user id. The tell him you are tired of the current situation and have been advised to put all your documentation for this sale in the hands of your lawyer and he will deal with it. May not work, but then again it may.

[sniperace66]

http://home.comcast.net/~waltshop1/Images/image003.gif (http://www.electronicandhome.com/)

That won’t work he just get another id and problem solved ebays all for the buyers now
And will protect them. H e double hockey sticks :D with the sellers they make more money by
Being dishonest then being honest (Ebay)

[Lanascountry]

Does anyone have that link to (where) folks are listing their dishonest BUYERS?
I checked it a while back, but can NOT remember the name. Also someone should do a site
to list BUYERS at the alternate sites that make bogus bids (with no intent to pay). On one
of my alts, I just noticed I had 3 sales/no pay..no intention of paying (a buyer) !! :(

[spooky36]

I do not know if one exists. I suggested the other day that one could be easily set up as a mailing list and notices sent to subscribers. If sellers think that having one, and one does not already exist, I would be happy to set up a list. I already have a few fan site lists running so one more would not be a problem.

[Lanascountry]

Sounds GREAT to me Sppoky..Why not mention it to admin?
I know we get this type buyer at WB as well, but admin is always great
to handle for us. :)

[spooky36]

Ok, Lana, will do. Errrr, how do I contact the admin?

[Lanascountry]

Spooky, you could either post in a thread starting with admin OR send him a PM? :)
I will contact him as well for you.

[spooky36]

Admin, Lana and I have discussed a suggestion I posted a few days ago about setting up a mailing group that will post the user id and details of bad buyers. If there is not one already in place, I would be willing to set one up. What are your thoughts on this?

[Lanascountry]

Hey Spooky..I sent him info as well.:D

[DealsHQ]

Ok, now i got the "i'll file with paypal and leave you Neg. feedback and you can't do anything about it" thing from this person...i just said do whatever..and they made sure they plugged the new "power to the buyers" thing. lol ...poor ol ebay.

[pineacres65]

Hi Spookie you talked about leaving feed back here is a site that ebay members are using to leave feed back thats how you can find out about bad buyers also it is www.ebuyer-feedback.com ,also if you want to check someones feed back you can go to www.goofbay.com you can check anyone on ebay for there feed back

[pineacres65]

Hi Deals hope this is all you get is one I have had 3 of them in the last month and have talk with ebay and paypal with no results,paypal says ebay has to take care of the problem and ebay says they cant remove the Neg because it does not violate there policy,but you can reply to there feed back,like a lot of good that does,some of my old buyers emailed me and cant believe that my feedback score has drop so far but they still intent on buying from me they understood how this has happened so not all the buyers are bad it seems the newbies that ebay has attracted now are the ones that are creating a nightmare for sellers and also think for the good buyers that sellers have had for years

[Lanascountry]

Pine, that is exactly why I cannot bring myself to sell there any more! The
very finest of sellers are going to be RUINED!! Plus with this new rule they have
about the 12 months..if you DON'T sell there any more (like us) I guess your FB
will slowly disappear completely!! (I know we have already talked of this). :(

[pineacres65]

Hi Lana I guess thats the only way to save your rep is to not sell for 12 months then go back and sell for awhile then stop for another 12 months LOl ,they say they are making more new changes

[DealsHQ]

Thanks for the info.
This lady has sent the nastiest PM and emails..saying i'm a lair and ripping people off.. and i know she is not telling the truth about the dvds....it's crazy . I sell 1000's of dvds and every once in a while you get a nut like this and it makes you want to stop selling anything and run over your PC with a truck and rip your internet connect out of the wall.
Most of this is due to ebays stupid feedback rules because she has made several comments about "you can't leave me a bad feedback" .."ebays cleaning it up around here and giving the buyers a safe place to buy"...blah,blah blan.... i really dislike people like that and think they must have a very bad life.

[admin]

I do not know if one exists. I suggested the other day that one could be easily set up as a mailing list and notices sent to subscribers. If sellers think that having one, and one does not already exist, I would be happy to set up a list. I already have a few fan site lists running so one more would not be a problem.

I am not sure all the details you are suggesting for such a list, but WeBidz would not endorse this, as this could easily be used for abusive purposes. Just think if you had a username of "user123" here, and someone did not like you. They go to anotherauctionsite.com and create a username of "user123", and do a bunch of bogus bids... Now your username here and elsewhere is tainted... Or a sellers wants to harm their competition, so they create bogus claims by entering their competitors name to the list.

The feedback system should be used as an accurate reflction of transactions, that way the next buyer or seller can see who they are dealing with. Also, filing reports will help rid sites of such members. We take non paying bidder reports very seriously, and demand responses from these buyers in every case. Buyers that do not respond to such complaints get suspended every time. We also have a system in place that we block their computer from accessing our system from future registrations.

So basically the best things that can be done to combat this (on WeBidz), would be to leave negative feedback and file a report at our help desk. If a non paying bidder leaves retaliatory feedback, we will remove in most cases. Just log another ticket for this, and we will investigate and many times remove such feedback.

[Lanascountry]

Just think if you had a user name of "user" here, and someone did not like you. They go to interactions.com and create a username of "user123", and do a bunch of bogus bids... Now your user name here and else where is tainted... Or a sellers wants to harm their competition, so they create bogus claims by entering their competitors name to the list.


Admin, Spooky and I discussed this possibility as well, as we felt some unscrupulous people (buyers or sellers) might use it as a retaliation against others. I do know there are some groups of this type are already
in place. There are some groups (already in place) like PEACE that watch very closely to prevent such behaviors, but they are not very strong yet. (they are now accepting reputable sellers, as well as site staff).

Spooky, I do think there is groups that are very active with this now, but as admin says, it could be misused.

[spooky36]

As said something like this could be misused if not monitored and the reports not looked at before they were posted. If that meant sending an email to the suspected bad buyer to learn their side of the story, then that is what would be done. But if it is true that it is new buyers that are running these scams, I am sure the same names would begin appearing in reports repeatedly.

The original idea for this was not to limit it's use to only one auction site, but to any auction site that has them problem. I would never have promoted the list as part of this site in any way.

But as I have learned there are other places that complaints can be files, so I will not pursue this any further.

[Lanascountry]

You might enjoy working with some of the groups already active, Spooky??
On PSU we talk about such things, but rarely mention names or links to, unless
they are really bad..and you are SO correct, their names (even their various
names) will show up and they will lose..I hate what they are doping to good people
though.. :(

[sniperace66]

http://home.comcast.net/~waltshop1/Images/image003.gif (http://www.electronicandhome.com/)


EBay is making it real hard for the small sellers to sell on eBay and that’s what they want to do.
Most if not all small sellers have a full time job and sell on the side so they cannot devote all their
time selling.

That’s what eBay wants they want the full time sellers that do this for a living.
Their new policies reflect this. You must be available 24/7 for any question a customer may
have. Must be able to ship item immediately upon payment. This is impossible for small sellers
To do when holding a full time job to feed their kids and maintain a roof over their kids heads.
Let alone take care of everyday life.

EBay forgets how it got started it was the small sellers that made eBay and that’s how they
Treat them??? Somewhere eBay forgot this and got greedy and now they will pay the price
for their arrogance. I give them a year or 2 before they close up shop if they don’t change
its ways

I was on eBay for 3 months until they made these changes I do not sell for a living I do it on
The side I have a full time job 10 hrs a day 5 to 6 days a week I do not have the time to monitor
My store 24/7 I checked it 2 to 3 times a day. But with these new policies I would have to
Monitor it all the time, fight with eBay about the unfair feedback I would get due to the
New feedback policies (that would take half the day) would be running to the post office
3 to 5 times a day to mail the items.

EBay’s expatiations for sellers is way too high for the small time sellers that’s why the dsr sytem
Is so ridiculous eBay tells buyers that a 4 is good but they consider 4 no good get that?? Since
When did a 1 to 5 rating system and a 4 was bad??

EBay’s view on 1 to 5 rating system :D

1. Avoid this seller like the plague
2. Don’t buy from this seller
3. Beware you’re going to get ripped off
4. This seller sucks
5. Great seller (only if a power seller)

http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/0002006E.gif

[Lanascountry]

Ace, That was a really good wrap up of the way things are there, IMHO!! :)
We all just have to keep doing the right things and the customers as well as
more excellent sellers will come to the alts. Let ebay run the good sellers off,
it is their lose! :confused:

[pineacres65]

Ebay has created a monster now they have to live with it,I think thats why the new feedback sites have popped up,its mainly for ebay members,that are tired of being bullyed buy buyers, there are very good sellers that just cant take it anymore and want a better way of making a living,my wife and I are retired and have the time to answer questions and take care of business,but ebay has made it hard for even us as full time sellers to live like that,so we have started to do the outside markets again for the summer month to help out with what has happened to our income so the part time sellers have to be really taken a beating,its unfair to all big and little sellers alike

[pineacres65]

Hi I forgot to say the only difference with the internet and selling at the market is you dont get rained on LOL

[mj-trading]

I had to give a Power Seller 2 neg feedback yesterday! Hated to do it but had it coming as far as in my book! Within 2 days apart i had to place 2 orders with him as my supplier had a back order and i wanted to kept my 2 customers happy! I paid as i ordered each! I waited and waited! Nothing about being shipped or not! So i sent messages and emails to this seller! Nothing! Sent more! Nothing! Finally i figure You ain't going to run off with my money like a Power Seller did earlier this year! So i did 2 disputes with Paypal! They never ansered them! In the mean while my 2 customers were getting excited so i refunded them both! I then switch my disputes to claims at Paypal! About 4 days later i get a email from one buyer and 2 days after that from the other saying they got the products what you want us to do! I told them to enjoy them for the trouble they went threw! They were so suprise! Well anyway i had to close the 2 paypal claims as they got the items! So a person needs to watch everyone now days on Ebay! Not just Power Sellers but everyone!
Here is the sellers Feed back! Why isn't he Banned? :confused: 37 Neg in a month? :confused:

( 11141) Power Seller

1 month 6 months 12 months
Positive 208 2691 6034
Neutral 11 42 56
Negative 37 48 53

Member since: Jul-25-05 in United States

[mj-trading]

I know what some of you are going to say! (I should have check the Feedback First!) Yes i should have! But it was 2 am, I was tired and deperate! Happy i found the items to keep my customers happy!
Yes! I'm a Da__ Dummy! LOL!:(

[Lanascountry]

Hey Mr J..It seems to me that on 'there' the bigger they are the more they
get away with. JB & I recently bought 2 items on there, (which we almost never do
anymore) and like you, paid within minutes. We have heard NOTHING whatsoever
from either seller. I think that place only wants the 'big guys', if you know what I
mean?:(
Only reason I say that is JB always try to let folks know we have received their
payment and item on the way..no matter where we sell..:)

[mj-trading]

I update my customers all the time! Payment recieved, Item being Prccess, Item Shipped, Track #, and my stores send a Thank you! Hope your enjoying your item! Message within 2 weeks after they recieve it!

I SHOULD HAVE ADDED TO MY FIRST THREAD THAT ONE OF MY CUSTOMERS I LET HAVE THE ITEM! CAME BACK A FEW DAYS LATER AND BOUGHT A ITEM FROM ME AGAIN! :D

[katandron1]

John, You should have checked their feedback first LOL.
J/K bubba,
Communication is a must, they should have just dropped a simple note to let you know the stuff had been sent. It takes all of less than 5 minutes to communicate with someone. Glad your buyers are happy, sorry you lost some money though.

[Lanascountry]

Mr J..you give great service, and that is why you do well! That is so COOL! :)

[DealsHQ]

well heres a update on my troubles...the buyer send me emails saying he was coming to my house to beat me up and made a bunch of threats and of course left me a neg. feedback...but i did turn him in for the threats .All this was due to ebays new feedback rules and the buyer stated this several times that i couldn't do anything but leave a good feedback.
Hopefully it over with now.

[Lanascountry]

Deals, I am so sorry this has been done to you, at least it does not seem to appear on your
repatoo (total). With as many good FB as you have, most of your buyers will see through
this mean buyer, and continue to buy from you. Maybe sooner (or later) ebay will wake
up! :(

[spooky36]

I have not sold anything on ebay for years now, and have only bought one or 2 things since this new feedback system was installed. My question is are sellers now forced to leave feedbacks? I know in the past, I have bought items and never received an sort of feedback from the seller. So, if you are not obligated to leave a feedback, for bad sellers don't. This way you will not improve their rating. If a buyer is counting on the fact that only good feedbacks can be left, and his rating will go up no matter what he does, he will be mistaken.

Seems to me that if this could be done, the sheer fact that nothing is being said about a buyers part of the sale would send a message, or aleast make someone ask why.

Just a thought, but as I said, I do not know what rules on feedbacks the sellers now have to follow.

[bamadog_8]

I just read the new user agreement over at feebay. For new members this starts now and for current members this (supposedly) starts mid-August:

Violation:
"transfer your eBay account (including feedback) and User ID to another party without our consent."

So how is this going to affect our Repatoo banners? Will we still be able to use this service to promote our feedback from the bay?

bamadog_8

[Lanascountry]

GOOD question Bama..I bet Pete (repatoo owner) will come up with something. I would like to have mine where it can be checked but hey, if not possible maybe someone can design some sort of 'landing page' where sellers can put their IDs for potential buyers to check (them out).

[spooky36]

"transfer your eBay account (including feedback) and User ID to another party without our consent."


When I read this line, the thought that came to mind is that they do not want members handing over or selling ebay accounts to someone else to use. I could be wrong, usually am.

[Lanascountry]

I feel that a sellers reputation and history is THEIR property. Just my
opinion. (if is sort of the same as a good credit history, you should be able to
retain it.) :)

[Lanascountry]

Wooops I meant to say also, I do NOT think people should ever be allowed
to SELL their online reputaion/history. I guess they COULD sell the business
part though. I have already seen sellers trying this..(trying to sell their entire
online history and business) NOT! :rolleyes:

[bamadog_8]

I bet your right. I never thought about selling my ID & feedback to someone else. Glad you posted this - I was already getting upset and ranting about it to the family LOL ... I can calm down a bit now:o

bamadog_8

[Lanascountry]

Bama I have seen this on PSU several times already..they wound up getting booted
(or BOO-ed:)) off. NO one should ever be allowed to do that. After all it is NOT the same
as selling a (B&M) store front and merchandise.

[spooky36]

Bamadog, if nothing else, I am glad I helped calm you down. Don't let the latest Ebay lunacy spoil an up and coming holiday weekend. So on Friday through Sunday, let us all eat, drink and be merry for Monday we must work.

:eek:

[Kapu]

I have not sold anything on ebay for years now, and have only bought one or 2 things since this new feedback system was installed. My question is are sellers now forced to leave feedbacks? I know in the past, I have bought items and never received an sort of feedback from the seller. So, if you are not obligated to leave a feedback, for bad sellers don't. This way you will not improve their rating. If a buyer is counting on the fact that only good feedbacks can be left, and his rating will go up no matter what he does, he will be mistaken.

Seems to me that if this could be done, the sheer fact that nothing is being said about a buyers part of the sale would send a message, or aleast make someone ask why.

Just a thought, but as I said, I do not know what rules on feedbacks the sellers now have to follow.

This was my problem too. When I bought in the past, sometimes I never got fdbk from buyers/sellers, even if I left them positive. Now that it's a buyer's market there, how could I be persuaded to believe that sellers will leave me pos fdbk? If i buy something and leave them pos, they still don't have to leave me anything. I as a buyer could possibly say, i'll wait til they leave me + about paying before I leave them + about getting the item. So feedback extortion is STILL going on, whether ebay chooses to believe it or mot.

[Lanascountry]

I hardly EVER buy anything there but the other day purchased from TWO sellets..LOL,
I recd. one so far and left GREAT feedback with FIVE * * * * * all the way across , I still
did not get any FB, it sorta hurt my feelings..if you know what I mean? :p:o

[pineacres65]

Hi Has anybody read auctionbytes news lately,if not it is very interesting its about a powerseller that got suspended for leaving NEG. feed back in the postive area all his listings were canceled also even the paid ones I think for what it said,so he cant collect on his auctions,and it all started on the bad checks a buyer used to pay for his items,and then left Neg feed back for the seller

[Lanascountry]

Do you have that link to that post @ Ab, Pine? I haven't been there in a while.
Bay is gonna take everyone (all their people & sellers) down with them. I can hardly
believe anyone wants to sell there now..I just cannot..:(

[bamadog_8]

Finally! Store Closed! I was asked to complete several pages of forms about why I first opened and then why I was closing my store there. I skipped over most of it but just had to reply as to why I was closing my store:)

"MY buyers are/were not YOURS. *I* WAS *YOUR* CUSTOMER! *I* am the one that paid fees to E__y.com. You decided that YOUR customer (me) was not important anymore. Moving where I will be considered a valuable customer."

Doubt it'll ever be read by any live person there but it made me feel better anyway. LOL

bamadog_8

BTW, A 6 months free Pro-Store certificate came in the mail today. I left it in the bathroom in case we run out of TP!

[pineacres65]

Hi Lana heres the web address
http://blog.auctionbyte.com/cig-bin/blog/blog.pl/2008/7/125608533.html
ery interesting reading let me know if you have a problem and I will try resending it to you

[pineacres65]

Hi Lana sorry that link did not work this one does
www.auctionbytes.com (http://www.auctionbytes.com)
look on the right side and it will take you to that blog
and yes I am still selling on the bay for a while till things pick up here and still doing the outside markets,this was a good weekend at the market thank god

[spooky36]

Pine, thanks for the link, very interesting read. Certainly looks like most people have seen this new feedback rule as stupid and it is. I could not resist adding my 2 cents to the comments, figure what is
ebay gonna do, suspend me? Heck they still owe me 35 cents for overpaying my store bill 5 years ago. Just a perverse bit of humor that gets me every month when I get my statement telling me they owe me that bit of change knowing it has probably cost them alot more just to create and send the invoice. :D

[DealsHQ]

Finally! Store Closed! I was asked to complete several pages of forms about why I first opened and then why I was closing my store there. I skipped over most of it but just had to reply as to why I was closing my store:)

"MY buyers are/were not YOURS. *I* WAS *YOUR* CUSTOMER! *I* am the one that paid fees to E__y.com. You decided that YOUR customer (me) was not important anymore. Moving where I will be considered a valuable customer."

Doubt it'll ever be read by any live person there but it made me feel better anyway. LOL

bamadog_8

BTW, A 6 months free Pro-Store certificate came in the mail today. I left it in the bathroom in case we run out of TP!

Super Good answer to them ..lol i love it.:D

Also on a side note i had contacted ebay on that guy who said he was coming to my house and beat me up and send really threating emails and they did Nothing..told me to contact my local law enforcement but threats fo bodily harm is taken serious by ebay...yeah right..it was all an automated reply...lol

[Lanascountry]

Thank you Pine..great link and post!
Sweet Bama..great response to bay..you got me laughing again!:D

[mj-trading]

COME ON GUYS!! YOU SHOULDN'T PICK ON THAT POOR EBAY LIKE THAT! LOL!

We learn over 6 yrs ago to get out of there! We are still in business which proves you don't need the BAY!

[pineacres65]

Hi everyone Guess what ebay is rolling out a new policy for feed back it was also on auctionbytes news letter today,they are removing neutral feed back,but of course there is that usual catch they are going to let buyers change there feed back after they leave it,in case they made a mistake,the rules have changed again LOL

[Lanascountry]

LOL, Pines, so are you saying buyers will now have the option of changing
Neutral to Negative?? GEEZ>>>



EBAY IS REALLY NUTZ!!!!! :confused:

[spooky36]

This feedback stuff gets better and better. The next rule will be that you will not have to leave a feedback at all, someone in the office will do it for you by using one of those magic balls.

It has been said that one out of 10 people suffer from some sort of insanity, luck for us they all work for Ebay.

[mj-trading]

COMMUNITY FEEDBACK COMMITTEE!! THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL DO! MADE ALL UP BY BUYERS!

[pineacres65]

No Thats not what there saying they say if you have neutrals it will be removed permanently from your Feedback,but soon they will implement a new policy that if a buyer feels they gave you feedback and find they need to change it they will be able to ,so if they gave you good feedback and decided it was not what they meant to do they can change it to bad feed back and the seller will not be able to do anything about it,now does that make any sense LOL
Please check out my store new Items added
http://webidz.com/stores/pineacres65

[Lanascountry]

:mad:AHHHHHHHHHHH!! in other words..".I love the watch!! SHOOOOT (2 months later.).
I BROKE it!! Bad seller bad seller!" :rolleyes::eek::mad:

[katandron1]

Pine, that was a good read. I have been working this week on some high school football uniforms(120 of em) to go out, so have not been on WeBidz except to check emails, but did take the time to read that link. It is crazy what Ebay is doing, and does anything they do now days make any sense?

[DealsHQ]

I have noticed that with the new eBay feedback rules,Non paying bidders have sky rocketed (is that a word) . I had a older dvd on there and i have now sold it 4 times and 3 were non paying bidders and this new person has not paid yet.
I'm Glad i'm starting to sell some stuff on webidz as that lets me deal less and less ebay.

[spooky36]

Before they started messing with the feedback system, bidders knew that once they bid on an item, if they won they were obligated to buy it. Because of this, I myself, would shop and if I found things I liked, I placed them on my watch list until I knew for sure I could afford to buy it. Now people just see something and bid, they are not concerned about whether or not they can actually afford to pay for the item. Since negative feedbacks are no longer a threat, they know if they change their mind or can not pay, they can walk away like it never happened. Of course all the fees Ebay charges for this auction will still need to be paid and that just hurts the seller.

It is a shame that there is not some sort of "sellers councel" on ebay where they could go as representatives of the sellers, and tell ebay this rule has increased the amount of bogus bidders and no payers. Since there are a large number of "won" auctions that are not being paid for, the sellers as a whole will not be paying the end of auction fees for these auctions. There is no reason why ebay should profit from the dishonest actions of the bidders they now allow to use the site.

Unfortunately, something like this will never happen simply because ebay would never listen or even care. They are only interested in their profit margin and as long as money keeps coming in, they do not care what problems there might be, because it does not effect the money they make. They will eventually wake up when they realize that many of their smaller and mid range sellers are closing their stores leaving only the bigger stores on the site. To keep their profits where they want them, ebay will do the only thing they seem to know how to do - raise the fees and by doing this they will start to lose the big stores they have since between the fees and problems with bidders, even those stores will start to see loses.

Between the raising of the site fees and now this feedback fiasco, I think we are seeing the end of ebay and in a year or two it will just be a small auction site or gone completely.

[mj-trading]

The problem is guys! Is everytime you turn around you hear Ebay on a television show or movie or news or something! Free advertising! As long as they get that, It wll keep them going!

[spooky36]

True, you hear alot of people saying "I got this on Ebay", but as sellers leave there will be less and less to get there and at that point, the free advertising they have going will disappear. I have not seen their glitzy tv commercials in sometime, so that tells me they had little effect on the amount of traffic to the site or an increase of sales on the site.

A company is only as good as the people running it and the ones currently running ebay are running it into the ground..

[E3 Sales]

Epay and PAYpal is the biggest scamming rippoff company on the net.

[Lanascountry]

We KNOW Offthehook!! TWO (2) of many reasons we are here!
A warm welcome to WB!! :D

[spooky36]

I joined Ebay back in the spring of 1999. My purpose was to find and buy non-sport card sets that I had not been able to get because, living in a small town, there were no card shops. I had a list of sets that I wanted and within the year I was able to get all those sets plus a bunch that I did not know that existed. I figured I paid about 25% of what I would have paid if I had ordered from catalogs or bought from online dealers.

Nice trip down memory lane, but could i do the same now? No, not even close. While non-sport sets are readily available, they are no longer bargains and sometime are more expensive than from online dealers.

My point is that ebay is no longer a place where you can go and find most anything you want at a great price. Big part of why this is, simple fees. We are all well aware of the list of fees that are paid for each auction on ebay and coupled with the cost monthly cost of a store and the paypal fees. Sellers can no longer offer the low prices and still make some sort of living. You can still find just about anything on ebay, but you are going to pay for it and probably pay big time. Thank you corporate ebay for ruining such a good idea.

The one positive change that has happened is while back in 1999, if you wanted to have something listed on an online auction your option was basically ebay. Now, people have a wide choice of auction sites and this also serves as an alternative for people who have had enough of working long hours to list auctions only to find a big chunk of their money going to people who have nothing better to do than think up silly rules.

[pineacres65]

Hi Everyone hope you all had a good week end,here is another site for good reading for those that are still selling on Ebay,some powersellers are now being notified about a paypal only policy when they list if you would like to read this heres the link
http://thebrewsnews.wordpress.com
if the link does not work type in your browser

[pineacres65]

I forgot to tell you to click on the right where it says ebay for the story about the new policy which will be payal only in usa

[DealsHQ]

More rules! Ebay has way too many rules now, this can only lead to more troubles for sellers and buyers.

[pineacres65]

Well it seems that Ebay is saying that the paypal only in USA was just a Glitch in the program,but there Glitch hit a lot of powersellers ,Most people that I have read about are saying they are running a test to see if they can get away with it,I also think they will go paypal only soon

[spooky36]

Oh goodie, another rule. Ebay now has more rules than Duct Tape has uses.

But seriously, I have a hard time thinking this can be legally enforced. I can see if you list an auction item on their site, but the stores are a totally different matter. You have paid to have that store and the items listed there do not have to be co-listed as an aution. If this is all true, how can they go in and tell a store owner what types of payment they are allowed to accept? It would be like the landlord going into one of their store rental properties and telling the shopkeeper they can only take Visa for their sales and nothing else. Does not seem right, and I do hope that it is just a glitch in the program that will be corrected.

Unless ebay has now decided that limiting to paypal will increase fees collected from each seller. You figure they must have noticed they are losing customers, but need to maintain a monthly income and the easiest way to do it would be to enact a system that would guarantee that all fees connected to any sale at their site would end up in their coffers.

Just sounds to me to be just one more good reason to close up shop on ebay and move to another site, like this one.

[sniperace66]

EBay is hurting with all those new policies that they started and now they are paying the price
For it now. They do not want to admit it so they are changing the rules again to try to makeup
For the other policy mistakes instead of just admitting their mistake they will do anything to
Hide it and its going to get worst for them unless they admit to their mistakes and redo their
Policies.


Our company is doing the same thing they are saying one thing and doing another. They are
Trying to hide the truth but the employees know what’s going on they think we are dumb
But they are mistaken we know that our company is up for sale but will not tell us.
Like our company and others eBay is struggling to stay alive and will turn to all means to save
It. even if it borders on breaking the law.

[pineacres65]

Good evening all I got a call from Ebay today to ask why I have never taken up there offer for a powersellers statis,I gave them quite a ear full but I think it was on deaf ears anyhow,I did tell them that since there new policy that all they have attracted to there site was scammers and people that complain even on new items with free shipping,of course they are going to help resolve those problems ,like I said deaf ears,I also ask about the paypal only they said it was a giltch,they are only out there to make money on the backs of good people trying to make a living,there stocks are dropping and people are leaving but they wont admit defeat,and probably never will,as time goes on people will move on and ebay will lose

[jcrouse1217]

My solution? eBay should adapt the same rules for buyers: Positive FB, or no FB at all.

[elijahboy]

I have been selling on ebay for 6 years and i usually only sell about 1000.00 worth a month. The last two months or so have been awful becuase these loosers bid and dont pay. I need some where else to sell so I cam here. I looked around the childrens clothing because that is what I sell. After flipping through a couple of pages I noticed there arent bids for anything. How are all of you selling here. Please help I need an alternative to feebay.
thanks

[katandron1]

Hi elijah, the sales here to tend to be slow, for several different reasons though.
It is a smaller site than Ebay, we recommend that if you would like to sell here, contact your customers at Ebay via email and let them know you are moving. Some buyers are hesitant about comming to a new site.
The economy is slow also, whether people want to hear that or not, that is part of the problem with slow sales.
What you will find here though is that if you do make a sale, and the buyer doesn't pay, let admin know, and he will help solve the problem.
Hope this helps in your decision making, if you have anymore questions, please feel free to ask.

[E3 Sales]

Patience is important. I have been searching for an Epay alternative for quite some time. I hope I have found it. Get your name out there and your products where people can see them.

[spooky36]

Hi Elijah. Opening a store on this site has it's advantages. First and most important, no fees attached to the auctions unless you want special features. That in itself could save you a bundle depending on how much you wish to list. They offer stores at dirt cheap prices and the lowest level store is free. You can start with that one and always upgrade in the future. Since starting here is virtually free you will have time to contact your customers and get them to come to your new store. While that is happening you will not be investing money every month hoping to break even. I would say, give it a try, all you will have to invest will be the time it takes to list the items and since they can be auto relisted for as long as you want even that will be a time saver for you.

[pineacres65]

Hi I guess ebay is up to its old tricks again,I read on auctionbyes that ebay will be gving free listing for the holiday season ( starting sometime in Sept)but of course theres a catch it will be upping the final fee to around 12%,I think the people that come up with these promotions really should seek help ,they think they can fool anyone

[BathandBody4You]

Thats why I've moved to this auction site. The fees are great and even if Final Value fees are added it will still be more reasonable than "steal-bay". I'm willing to tough it out here as long as I can with the hope that more people start using Webidz. I sell my bath and body products for commission; after all of the fees on Ebay I really don't make anything.

Spread the word about Webidz everyone and let's make this auction site better than Ebay!!

[lwlrfmly2]

I for one am happy to be here. I checked into the bay when I first wanted to sale things online. Right off the bat I realized the fees were just crazy. I mean come on are they cant be serious. What I want to know is are the sellers leaving the Bay or just taking it?:eek:

[lwlrfmly2]

grrrr cant edit.........

[BathandBody4You]

I still have a store on there but I dropped it to a basic store. I have about half the listings as I did before. My sales are waaay down in the last couple of months but that's because another rep from the company I work for started a store and she's offering free shipping on everything. I did that when I first started selling my bath and body products but I was losing too much money! It's a nice offer when you're getting started but at the time I did it, I was pretty much the only one selling those products. No worries....I like it here; people are very nice and helpful.

[pineacres65]

Yes ebay is taking a bite out of everyones profits,still selling there but sales are down,not only will they be adding more FVF but it will now include the shipping and handling charge not just your sales,I guess ebay thinks that most sellers cant figure out that there paying more,I for one can add,when these changes come in Sept.I guess I will have to find a way to make money other then ebay,the outside Markets will close soon

[zane108]

Shipping is high enough on it's on now they want to charge FVF on it to? They are out of there minds. I quit selling there last year. I'm so glad i'm not at the bay any more

[BathandBody4You]

I think they finally caught on that a lot of sellers were making their item prices real low and then charging higher on shipping because of the FVF. Unfortunately those that charge fair shipping charges get screwed now.

[zane108]

I have never bought from a seller that gouges there shipping. I just never liked that charge nothing for them item and outrageous shipping. They are also cheating you on your post office insurance it only covers the price of the item not shipping.

[zane108]

It just sad that the fair sellers are getting punished to.

[pineacres65]

Ebay just announce it will be going paypal only starting Sept 16 in some categories no more money orders and cashiers check,that will cut down on sales for people who only use them,they say it will be a better market place,they have made so many changes nobody can even keep up with them anymore,:confused:

[spooky36]

Sellers using shipping to duck the end of auction fee has been going on for a long time. It was being done when I joined there in 98 and would imagine it was happening long before I joined. When I was selling, I never resorted to doing it and offered fair shipping charges, though I could understand why alot of sellers did it - it was the only way to make a decent profit and not have to lose a chunk of it to payment of fees. As a buyer, I would not buy from a dealer that would list items for for a low price and them charge 2 to 3 times the auction amount for shipping. I would recommend to people when shopping on that site to always check the shipping before bidding, especially on the buy it now items. A very nasty shock to do a $5.00 buy it now, only to find your bill goes up to $30.00 because of shipping.

It is bad that this new fee will effect the sellers who did not resort to padding the shipping charges. With luck maybe, the people who are setting up this new fee scale will set it to exempt normal shipping charges. Any shipping below a certain amount is charged .00 and then just go after the ones who are padding the bills.

Bottom line on this is that all the sellers will add more to their prices to cover the additional fees and then the buyers will wind up paying more for anything they buy there. It is a vicious circle, one that the people who are managing that site seem to be blind to. Higher prices = less sales, less sales = failing stores, failing stores = less business on that site, less business = higher prices on items that are selling.

The more I hear about all the changes that are happening at that site, the more I believe it is on it's deathbed and within a year it will either have to radically revamp the way it does business or close down. Right now they seem to want to drive away all the small dealers, the ones who are selling just a few items, while hoping the increased fees will still allow their big stores to remain open. But sooner or later even the biggest store there will sit down and look at their profits and find that with all the additional fees they are not making enough money. Once that happens they too will shut down and move on, leaving the site with buyer but no sellers.

[spooky36]

The new Paypal rule is not to provide a better market place, it is to ensure that all auctions will now be processed through paypal guaranteeing that more money will be generated by the fee Paypal charges for each transaction. Don't get me wrong, I have used paypal for my auctions from the start and have no problem with the fee they charge, but if I had to pay that fee along with all the additional fees that site tacks on each auction, it would add up fast and eat into what little profit a seller can make.

Just another rule that will eventually cut down on the amount of business the site can do. I know people who have bought things from ebay and will only pay with money orders because either they do not have a bank account or do not want to give that information to paypal. I guess those people and all those like them will no longer shop on ebay.

[Lanascountry]

Yal think it would be appropriate to start a online poll that they bring
awful MEGGIE back ??:D
It is getting worse and worse under JD leadership!! We never even visit
ebay anymore! :rolleyes:

[mj-trading]

I MYSELF THINKS JD IS DOING A GREAT JOB!











ON THE WAY OF BANKRUPPING EBAY!

[Lanascountry]

Mr J..I wish he would go ahead and get it over with!! :D

[bamadog_8]

I MYSELF THINKS JD IS DOING A GREAT JOB!




ON THE WAY OF BANKRUPPING EBAY!

Yes! He sure has helped the membership here to grow :p and I'm sure he'll keep up the good work :D

bama

[lwlrfmly2]

hahahah YUP let him keep doing what he is doing I love to see new members join our site. I am really excited and have a positve feeling about being here. :D :D :D

[Sports_Card_King]

The new Paypal rule is not to provide a better market place, it is to ensure that all auctions will now be processed through paypal guaranteeing that more money will be generated by the fee Paypal charges for each transaction. Don't get me wrong, I have used paypal for my auctions from the start and have no problem with the fee they charge, but if I had to pay that fee along with all the additional fees that site tacks on each auction, it would add up fast and eat into what little profit a seller can make.

Just another rule that will eventually cut down on the amount of business the site can do. I know people who have bought things from ebay and will only pay with money orders because either they do not have a bank account or do not want to give that information to paypal. I guess those people and all those like them will no longer shop on ebay.

there is a way around that rule ;)

Lets say you have something you want to list. Say you want $20 for and $6 shipping. Well you would list it as $1 with $25 shipping. Ebay can only touch the $1, even when you pay with paypal ;)

Honestly, it doesnt matter much to me either way. I havent sold there in about a year. And I only buy there when there is a card of someone I collect that I havent seen anywhere else.

[Lanascountry]

AND ebay stock continue to fall..are they blind..(or is this a plot?) :rolleyes:




eBay Inc. $ 24.22
EBAY -0.74

Short Interest (Shares Short) 32,468,300
Days To Cover (Short Interest Ratio) 1.5
Short Percent of Float 3.18 %
Short Interest - Prior 33,612,900
Short % Increase / Decrease -3.41 %
Short Squeeze Ranking™ -1

% From 52-Wk High ($ 40.73 ) -68.17 %
% From 52-Wk Low ($ 23.52 ) 2.89 %
% From 200-Day MA ($ 28.42 ) -17.34 %
% From 50-Day MA ($ 26.01 ) -7.39 %
Price % Change (52-Week) -26.10 %

Shares Float 1,020,000,000
Total Shares Outstanding 1,300,564,080
% Owned by Insiders 21.03 %
% Owned by Institutions 73.00 %
Market Cap. $ 31,499,662,018
Trading Volume - Today 6,274,316
Trading Volume - Average 21,631,000
Trading Volume - Today vs. Average 29.01 %

[mj-trading]

Sports! There going to start charging the fee on shipping too! So there is no way around it! You have $1.00 for item and $25.00 for shipping! You will pay the final fee on $26.00 not $1.00

[BathandBody4You]

Thats just going to hurt the people that sell their kids clothing, etc. You sell a 2 or 3 piece lot of kids clothes for 5.00 and have to charge 5.00 shipping, you're lucky to make a buck! Wonder how long it will be until ebay creates their own shipping company so they can profit on shipping charges!

[BathandBody4You]

Sorry, didn't mean to make it sound like the "power seller" type people aren't going to be hurt by the fees. They obviously are going to suffer to. I just meant that people that sell a bit for fun or extra money aren't going to think its worth it. Hey...thats good for Webidz though! They'll come here! :0)

[mj-trading]

Alot of Power Sellers moved over here when the first fees and feedback change came! I bet alot more Power Sellers will come here when the new fee and shipping charge comes in! So Ebay is losing the Big Sellers too!

[Lanascountry]

I must have caught on REAL fast..I was a SILVER level Power seller and I came
here over 3 years ago..I started at Power sellers Unite almost FOUR years ago..!! :D

[mj-trading]

I caught on faster then you tho Lana! Over 6 yrs now for us

[Lanascountry]

Sure did Mr J!! :D

[BathandBody4You]

My mom just sent me this interesting article link about Ebay. I don't remember the date of the article but thought I'd post it anyway...


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

[Lanascountry]

It just came out today, BB4U..:D

[Lanascountry]

BB4U..you have great new feedback!!
Thank you for being the type seller we NEED here at webidz.
We are delighted with our item and samples!! :)

[Sports_Card_King]

geee I wonder how long my comment with stay there :D

[pineacres65]

Hi Lanna yes stocks are dropping like a Rock down about 19 % so far,I just got a email about the new changes again LOL,they will be putting a cap on shipping so the people who over charge will get burned,What gets me the most is that they are going to hit you with a FVF on your shipping & handling charge to

[Lanascountry]

LOL, Pine you know the last couple years about all I have sold
(ebay like) is Half.com.. anyway, Half already took any excess
shipping from the seller. I guess they will leave you with - - negative
$$ now? :confused: Quite OFTEN at Half, there is $20.00 NEW
BEST SELLERS going for $5.00 or less! :eek: NO WAY for the
seller to even break even and compete..NOT on new MEDIA
on epay companies!

[Lanascountry]

Hey I just got a FYI..cool..there is a BIG news headline about
ebay on tonight!! it is called 'ebay OFF the block' !! ahahahah
was up there with OBAMA/HILLARY/JOE BIDEN AND ALL
THE BIG STORIES!! Gotta catch that later as I missed it..
I think it was ABC news!! :confused::D

[BathandBody4You]

I saw my new feedback! Thank you soo much! Just the jumpstart I needed as a seller.

[Lanascountry]

(Thank you again B&B4U!! ):D

I just put this response on ABC!! ..guys get in there and let ABC news
hear it!!! :D

on ABC news>>
Folks ..you are all welcome and encouraged to join Webidz.com! A great site with MANY members,
Free basic stores and at this time NO final value fee. We have been on line for 3.5 years are are
growing everyday. Webidz has super customer service and great members. If you are interested
in leaving the sinking ebay ship..come join us!!
(I do not mean to spam this group in anyway).
Lana

[Lanascountry]

Hey guys,,here is the link to ABC comment or commentary!!
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/comments?type=story&id=5626840

You will have to join ABC news online..I am Lanaco48

[pineacres65]

Hi Lana thanks for the info. on ABC very interesting,I think the person who wrote it should try selling on ebay ,and see if they take a bite out of there livelyhood,instead of writing something they no nothing about,and of course that is what i told them.I had to use a different user name being my was in use somehow.also a new policy is coming in Oct. but not yet sure how there going to impliment it yet it was on auctionbytes today,there not sure if they are going to make the sellers pay for return shipping or if there going to leave it alone and let the seller make the choice,but I will bet the seller will end up footing the bill both way,and the scammers will continue to come,what fun LOL

[Lanascountry]

Hey Pine..LOL, your friends and neighbors (here) were allowed on
there about 2 days then they started pulling our post out..(hows that
for freedom of the press??) I gotta go check to see if they left the OLA
(onlineauction) post up..Kat is (or was) still up there, Representing tha
WB thank goodness..!:D
Al the rest of us they deleted us!@! $%&*(_*&%#:mad:

On the WASHINGTON POST thread we were able to stay active about
a MONTH!! :D

[bamadog_8]

I added another comment so lets see how long they let this one stay:)

.................................................. ......................
I left Ebay back in July and I no longer have to deal with the anxiety of all these asinine changes!I'm doing fine without Greedbay!bama@webidz.com
Posted by:
bama_webidz.com 8:44 PM
--------------------------------------------


bamadog_8

[Lanascountry]

Good job, Bam!!
Anyone watching the Webidz 'booster' reports at PSU?? Pretty cool guys!!
Letting them know what IS the best site..(someone had to say that). :D

[bamadog_8]

Nothing new since CrystalStar's post:

http://www.powersellersunite.com/about21510.html


bama

[Lanascountry]

I just posted again..just a short one, like I always do..:rolleyes:

[mj-trading]

I just got this! CHECK IT OUT!

Steele et al. v. PayPal, Inc. et al., Civil Action No. 1:05-CV-01720 (ILG)(VVP)

Notice from Federal Court. Please Read.

You may be eligible to receive a benefit from a class action settlement if you funded a PayPal transaction using a source other than your credit card between February 1, 2004 and the present.

A federal court has directed that this notice be sent to inform you of a proposed class action settlement. Records show that you may be eligible to receive a benefit under the proposed settlement.

The settlement will resolve a lawsuit against eBay Inc. and PayPal, Inc. (collectively, "Defendants") involving claims arising out of representations in the PayPal User Agreement regarding PayPal's policies and practices for responding to refund requests from those customers who pay for transactions through PayPal using funds from funding sources other than credit cards. Under the settlement, Defendants have agreed to establish a settlement fund of $3.5 million to pay claims to potential class members. The proposed Class is defined as:

all U.S. based PayPal account holders who funded a PayPal transaction after February 1, 2004, using a source other than a credit card: (i) who subsequently requested a reversal of the transaction through PayPal's prevailing Buyer Complaint Policy and/or Buyer Protection Policy (collectively, "Policies"); (ii) who did not receive a refund equal to 100% of their transaction payment in response to such request from PayPal or their bank; and (iii) who, through the timely submission of a Claim Form under oath, attest to a reasonable and good faith belief that they would have received a full reversal of such payment had they used a valid credit card in their possession at the time of the subject transaction to fund the payment and filed a timely chargeback request with their credit card issuing bank. Excluded from the Class are any judicial officer to whom this Litigation is assigned; PayPal, eBay and any of its affiliates; any current or former employees, officers, or directors of PayPal or eBay; any Persons currently residing outside of the United States; and, all Persons who timely and validly request exclusion from the Class pursuant to the Notice.
To see if you are a Class Member and to obtain full notice of the Settlement, the required procedures, the deadlines, your obligations, and your options, you must visit www.?????.com. This email is only a brief summary of the full notice that is posted on the website.

If you are an eligible Settlement Class Member, you have rights, obligations, and options under the proposed settlement. You have until December 14, 2008 to file your Claim Form and Certification Form. Your legal rights are affected whether you act or not.

1. Submit The Claim Form And The Certification Form By Mail

This is the only way to get a settlement payment. You must: (1) print and fill out the Claim Form and return it by mail to the address provided on the Claim Form; and (2) print the Certification Page of your Claim Form, sign it, and return it by mail to the address provided on the Claim Form. Your Claim Form and signed Certification Page must be mailed and postmarked no later than December 14, 2008. For more information on these deadlines, the Effective Date of the settlement, the Claim Form procedures, and the settlement benefit, you must visit www.?????.com.

2. Exclude Yourself – Opt Out of the Settlement

If you do not want to remain a member of the Class and participate in the Amended Settlement, then you may exclude yourself (opt-out) from the Class by mailing or delivering (email is not permitted) your written request. Your original, signed request for exclusion must be RECEIVED on or before October 31, 2008 and mailed to the following address:

PayPal/Steele Class Action Settlement
c/o The Garden City Group, Inc.
P.O. Box ????
????, OH 43017-4209

Your request for exclusion must contain your name and address, be signed by you, and include the reference "Steele et al. v. PayPal, Inc. et al., Civil Action No. 1:05-CV-01720." If you exclude yourself from the Class, you will not participate in the Amended Settlement and will not receive any payment from the Amended Settlement.

3. Object

Write to the Court about why you do not like the settlement. Your objection must be filed with the Clerk of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, Brooklyn Main Office, 225 Cadman Plaza East, Brooklyn, New York 11201, no later than October 31, 2008. Pursuant to the Court's Order, you may not be heard on or entitled to contest the Court's decision unless you have filed written objections no later than October 31, 2008. A hearing ("Settlement Hearing") shall be held before Hon. I Leo Glasser on November 17, 2008 at 10:00 a.m. at the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, Courtroom 8B South, 225 Cadman Plaza East, Brooklyn, New York 11201.

4. Do Nothing

You will automatically be included in the Settlement Class and give up your right to be part of any other lawsuit about the claims in this case, but you will not be eligible to receive a settlement benefit unless you submit a Claim Form.

To get complete information about the proposed Settlement, the required procedures, the deadlines, your obligations, and your options, you must visit www.?????.com.

Please do not contact PayPal, or PayPal's customer support about this Notice, or the Settlement. Instead, you must visit www.?????.com. for complete information about the proposed Settlement, the required procedures, the deadlines, your obligations, and your options.

Please do not reply to this message. We are unable to respond to inquiries sent in reply to this email. To contact us, please access the official settlement website at www.?????.com.

[spooky36]

I read an article on Yahoo the other day that discussed all the changes made by ebay. They mentioned that ebay was going to offer free listing for a period of time, but also mentioned they would be raising the FVF as well. Anyone with a half a brain could figure that ebay would still be making more money off of those auctions even if it only sold for the initial listing amount.

What I thought was a good touch is that the article also included comments from sellers on ebay and the biggest concerns those sellers seemed to have is the increased fees (of course|) and also the new feedback system. If I remember correctly, one seller mentioned that he has had buyers try to bargain for lower prices after the auction ended and used a bad feedback as blackmail. The article ended with ebay speaking the party line of trying to make ebay a better marketing site.

So it seems it is not just the ebay community that has noticed the changes, and it does not put ebay in a positive position. Surely, that report would make a potential seller think twice about listing on ebay. It also shows that there are problems with dishonest buyers that ebay is doing nothing about. Another strike for them.

I know I keep saying this, but I really think Ebay has had it's day and unless they rethink their current rules, they will continue to slide. It looks like the powers that be think that ebay has gotten so big they can do anything and all the sellers will just happily follow along. They forgot rule #1 - NEVER believe your own PR.

[MADPROAUDIO]

I am a ebay seller. And I am one of the few that actually literally do some of the craziest things to try and spoil my customers. Example; Sometimes researching a customers ship address and ship the product out before they even pay. Or if I go to the post office and it cost me about $5 less than I thought. Even if I gave them a good rate, I refund the $5 without ever being asked. The point is. No matter how good I treat people. There are some really Nutzo customers. And ebay has really stuck it to sellers in a bad way. I truly believe that if another online auction place spends the proper money to get their name to the top. I know for a fact that tens of thousands of ebay sellers would jump ship to go with a auction place that truly protects the buyer and the seller. Or just leaves feedbacks out of the situation.

I just had a customer from Australia that paid $59 for shipping. When I went to the post office, they charged me $69.50. So I lost $10 and the price I paid was right on the box. Not only that, the customer paid with an echeck and it did not clear for 4 days. I shipped it out in less than 24hrs. Well before his checked cleared.
I spoiled him from start to finish and even sent him a custom listing of music for free. The jerk just leaves a feedback that says item received. And gives me a 4 out of 5 for shipping cost. Are you freaking kidding me. Not only did he get the best shipping price on the freak'n planet, we lost money. And we told ebay, just let us prove it by faxing over documents showing what we paid and you will see we lost money. So how could they let a buyer just do what they want. The way it is set up right now. You can be a buyer, go buy something, give the seller a negative for no reason, ruin thier star ratings and nothing can be done about it. that is grounds for a class action suit.

Now onto this site. I also sell on pricegrabber.com not too bad.. only 1-2 sales per month. And bidusa that has never had one question from a buyer nor one sale. I want to get peoples feedback on here about this auction site and if it is truly worth investing time into advertising. Or is it going to be like usabid and no one will ever buy the product. Thanks for anyones response.. Email me at nonprofitgroup@live.com [/SIZE][/SIZE]

[DealsHQ]

I have sold like 22 or so items on here and it's a very nice place and the people are great.
Webidz is still growing, so we all need to help it grow,but overall i'm very happy here.
thanks and welcome to webidz.

[katandron1]

Good morning and welcome to WeBidz Audio.
This site is growing everyday, and the sales are picking up everyday. You can view all the items that have bids on them on the home page, it's the big column in the center that says popular auctions. You can also see the recently sold, I believe it shows the latest 10 or 15 items and are a mix of items that had bids and items done on a buyout.

Our Admin works very hard to promote the site. And as sellers, we have taken the stance of doing our own promoting of our stores.

We submit our own stores to the search engines, we have RSS feeds being placed everywhere we can think of. We have sellers(DealsHQ for one) that sell ad space on their own sites for any seller who wants to purchase them (hope I said that right Tom). We have put our banners into our personal emails, and we have passed out flyers with the WeBidz name on them.

Why do we do all this? It's very simple, currently we do not have to pay for fvfs, relists, and various other fees that eBay seems to be taking from their sellers. Our Admin does not have the millions of dollars to do the big huge advertising that eBay does. So we do these things on our own to keep our fees down and be able to pass on that savings to buyers. If Admin was the only one doing the advertising, he should be compensated for his time, meaning he would have to implement all the fees that everyone is complaining so much about.

Another reason we do this is because many of us are in business to make money, It's our business and as a seller we should be working just as hard if not harder than the Admin to advertise.

We would also like to suggest that you contact any customer that you have on eBay and let them know you are setting up shop here. They are your customers, you worked hard to gain those customers and keep them. Why should eBay get to retain those customers if you leave? The only thing we ask is that you do not use the eBay system to let your customers know. We do not want any of our members to get into trouble by using eBay to contact customers about moving to alternate sites.

All that being said, we welcome you to WeBidz, and look forward to having you participate in the forums. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, we will do our best to assist you in any way we can. Admin here is great in helping folks out, and we have a great group of forum leaders that are very knowledgeable about how to motivate around the site.

[mj-trading]

Welcome! Boy sending items out before getting paid is real risky on any site! We were at the bay when they first started and we didn't dare do it then and especially now the way the world is! Good way to get put out of business! Good site here! Don't cost alot to try it out so really nothing to lose!
Good Luck!

[Lanascountry]

LOL, I thought you all might enjoy this post from PSU..:p
My, the gall of ebay..what a nerve after the way they have
treated sellers..Now they want to get down all to the 'seller's
help' level.................NOT! :eek:!

EBAY NEEDS OUR HELP...POOR BABIES

Ebay has singlehandedly destroyed the livelihood of countless loyal and honest sellers with their insane feedback and DSR policies. Now they have the gall to ask us to save their hides. Here's the email.

It came from Ebay Government Relations.
-------------------------------------------------

eBay Community to Washington:
Don't Pass Big Retail Industry's Anti-eBay Bill

Dear xxxx,

As a savvy online shopper, you know the Internet is the best place to find great products at great prices. And hard-working eBay sellers provide the best selection and values on the Internet.

So who wouldn't love finding a great deal on eBay? The answer: big retail stores. They don't like the competition. And now retailers are trying to undermine the ability of small business competitors to use the Internet and eBay to offer great values to savvy buyers like you.

The retail industry is spending millions of dollars on lobbyists and PR professionals to push politicians for new laws that unfairly accuse competitively-priced products online of being "stolen" goods. No Internet company is more committed to fighting online fraud and crime than eBay. But this debate is not about crime...it's about competition.

Here's what industry thought leaders are saying about the retailer-backed legislation:

"These bills would impose extraordinary and discriminatory restrictions on Internet marketplaces that help millions of people to legitimately buy and sell products every day - at big discounts...proponents say they're about loss prevention, but they're really about competition prevention..."

Read the full post from Steve DelBianco, President of Net Choice Coalition

Please follow this link to take part in eBay's Main Street grassroots campaign. In fewer than five minutes, you can send a pre-drafted letter to your elected officials. Let's remind Congress that big retailers may have high-priced lawyers and lobbyists, but real people like us rely on the values available online.

Thank you for making your voice heard.

Sincerely,

eBay Government Relations

[Lanascountry]

Here is another one from Ina Steiner at AUCTIONBYTES:

Dying on the vine . . . 8-Sep-08 08:22 am
feeBay is starting to enter its last leg of it existence . . . new program coming in Oct. will seal the deal.

There is one more major bombshell that will shake the very core of the eBay seller community this year - a pilot program in which the catalogs of some major manufacturers and retailers will be launched onto the site as early as October with the help of third-part vendors. eBay will reportedly grant these Diamond level PowerSellers special privileges, including zero listing fees and a period in which they will not be subjected to DSR seller standards. The pilot, which I'm dubbing Operation Catalog, is fluid, with one-on-one negotiations taking place with each company.

Operation Catalog won't necessarily affect antiques and collectibles sellers, and sellers of unique items and end-of-life inventory, at least for some time. I'd expect it to affect certain sellers of new product in categories like clothing and electronics, depending on what brands are brought onto the site. Imagine, for example, that you are a shoe seller on eBay, and suddenly Nike's entire catalog of SKUs is competing with your listings. Not only are you competing with the manufacturer of the product you sell, but that competitor is getting free listings and better exposure. It may also leave third-party vendors in the awkward position of explaining to existing customers why some new clients are getting special consideration.

Having watched eBay's platform over the past decade, and having an inkling of what an enormous undertaking this is, I expect to see some glitches ahead. I also expect the move will further incent smaller sellers to diversify.
By Ina Steiner

[mj-trading]

Over the last few months, eBay has announced a number of major changes to its site that all sellers need to be aware of. From a new fee structure to sweeping changes in listing policies, eBay's latest rule revisions—and their varied timetable for rollout—are causing waves of angst among sellers. Keeping it all straight can be a bit overwhelming, so here are some helpful links to bring you up-to-date on what changes are already in effect, and what's coming down the pipe:

General Overview of all the changes:


Paperless payments only—effective late October, 2008—checks/money orders will no longer be allowed as a form of payment (with the exception of "Payment on Pick-up.")

Fee changes—effective 9/16/08—lower insertion fees for fixed-price listings; increases in final-value fees for fixed-price listings (with the exception of items in certain media categories, where the FVFs actually decrease.)

eBay Motors fee changes—effective 9/02/08—eBay is eliminating the insertion fees on the first four vehicles you list in a 12-month period. Insertion fees on the fifth and any subsequent vehicle listing during that period is reduced 50% to $20 per listing. On the flip side, successful vehicle listings will pay a much larger "Successful Listing" fee—as much as 150% higher than the old fee.

Specified shipping in listings—effective 8/25/08—all listings must now have the shipping cost/service specified.

Limits on shipping/handling charges in media categories (Books, DVDs & Movies, Music and Video Games)—effective 10/05/08.

Specified return policy/handling time required—effective late October 2008—specify a return policy (even if you don't accept returns, you still have to state that) and enter a handling time for shipping.

Special incentives for free shipping—effective October thru December 2008—sellers who offer free shipping during the holiday season will get a free subtitle upgrade and PowerSellers will get double their FVF discounts.

New item page—effective late 2008 or early 2009—a new revamped Item Page with larger photos, real-time countdown timer, tabs to organize shipping and payment information, and much more.

Recent sales history a factor in "Best Match" search results—effective mid-September—recent sales of an individual item will now be a factor in Best Match search results.

[WeHaveit777]

:mad: Hi, I'm new to posting to the community. But I thought I would add, Extoration is bad enough, but there is even more news, I learned only yesterday from my image host site, I thought you all might be interested in knowing. So here goes, hoping I'm not out of line here. :confused:
Over the last few months, eBay has announced a number of major changes to its site that all sellers need to be aware of. From a new fee structure to sweeping changes in listing policies, eBay's latest rule revisions—and their varied timetable for rollout—are causing waves of angst among sellers. Keeping it all straight can be a bit overwhelming, so here are some helpful links to bring you up-to-date on what changes are already in effect, and what's coming down the pipe:

General Overview of all the changes: http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Overview/


Paperless payments only—effective late October, 2008—checks/money orders will no longer be allowed as a form of payment (with the exception of "Payment on Pick-up.") http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
Fee changes—effective 9/16/08—lower insertion fees for fixed-price listings; increases in final-value fees for fixed-price listings (with the exception of items in certain media categories, where the FVFs actually decrease.) http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/BasicFees/
eBay Motors fee changes—effective 9/02/08—eBay is eliminating the insertion fees on the first four vehicles you list in a 12-month period. Insertion fees on the fifth and any subsequent vehicle listing during that period is reduced 50% to $20 per listing. On the flip side, successful vehicle listings will pay a much larger "Successful Listing" fee—as much as 150% higher than the old fee. http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/FeatureFees/
Specified shipping in listings—effective 8/25/08—all listings must now have the shipping cost/service specified. http://pages.ebay.com/sell/june2008Update/faq/index.html#39
Limits on shipping/handling charges in media categories (Books, DVDs & Movies, Music and Video Games)—effective 10/05/08. http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/MaxShipping/
Specified return policy/handling time required—effective late October 2008—specify a return policy (even if you don't accept returns, you still have to state that) and enter a handling time for shipping. http://pages.ebay.com/sell/june2008Update/faq/index.html#37
Special incentives for free shipping—effective October thru December 2008—sellers who offer free shipping during the holiday season will get a free subtitle upgrade and PowerSellers will get double their FVF discounts. http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/OtherFAQ/index.html#2
New item page—effective late 2008 or early 2009—a new revamped Item Page with larger photos, real-time countdown timer, tabs to organize shipping and payment information, and much more. For a preview click here: http://pages.ebay.com/newitempage/
ebay.uk/ebay.ie changes: http://www2.ebay.com/aw/uk/200808.shtml#2008-08-20110529
Recent sales history a factor in "Best Match" search results—effective mid-September—recent sales of an individual item will now be a factor in Best Match search results. http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/OtherFAQ/#5

[framewizard]

NEWBIE, i am also new to WeBidz. i also come from ebay, i have sold there since 1999! the reasons you listed is why i am here !! let's do everthing we can to get buyers to come here to buy! Framewizard

[WeHaveit777]

:D I totally agree, Lets do all we can , to make Webidz very successful. Anyone have any good idea's , how we can all attract buyers? And more sellers too?

[WeHaveit777]

You're not alone, pchy...and even the powersellers have had enough now, lemme tell ya. They're pretty sick and tired of the 'bay.

But their loss is our gain and I'm sure glad you're here! :)

sylvia

:confused:I'm sorry , but I have to say, that little power seller star, doesn't mean a thing, and never did for me. Seriously, you think we could keep DSR's where Feebay demand's they stay? Nope! And they knew we couldn't, if your a small power seller like I was, well still show's I am, but anyway, there is no way, you can earn anything, with preset shipping amounts, only taking Paypal, ( which BTW I plan to find a new source of online payment), keeping sales up to the highest month's sells you ever had on Feebay, and that Grand suggestion of shipping for free, oh yeah, packing materials, time, gas, all free to power seller's. And talk about ripped off, just to maintain, a decent feedback rate, it's unbelieveabe! And even worse , now since we only can leave positive FB. I used to just pay for free shipping confirmation myself, and any addditional shipping charges, I paid them for the buyer, always, then I went to Insurance Optional, well, then Paypal, decides, because the buyer, didn't choose to opt for insurance, they give back your money. So , Now I pay for insurance. Doesn't matter though, all the buyer's have to do is tell Paypal, the item received wasn't what they expected, and Paypal will give them back the money. And, try asking a buyer to Follow Feebay's rule, " You are agreeing to a legal contract to purchase and pay for this item", or somewhere close to that. LOL, ( Also BTW Feebay, told me, sellers terms, mean I stress not yelling, ( NOTHING), that we are encouraged to create them, but they may only be helpful to us, If you really have a buyer that truly does agree to your term's. They don't have to though, FeeBay's term's Rule, No the buyer's now do not agree, and they don't have to, they pay when they want , if they want, I've waited as long as 45 days for payment, with one excuse after the other, and they don't need to bother to leave F/B, so they don't. I think Feebay knew that would happen, and when they don't bother to leave F/B no DSR's for that month. I never got a discount on any fee's. That's why I came here a couple months ago, but now with all the other new changes, and having to give back the money, plus they kept the item's. Well allow me to just say, I didn't serve in the Military all those years , to be told what I'll be paid with, or not to have freedom of speech, and not to have the right, to respond to my accusor. Sorry for the rant. But Power seller's are hit just as deep as other's by this. I know of one, that was the top Power Seller, of all FeeBay, and they were asked to cut down the amount of their listings. They did! Now they have their own web site. Wish I could remember the name. Thanks for hearing me out on this.

[WeHaveit777]

well heres a update on my troubles...the buyer send me emails saying he was coming to my house to beat me up and made a bunch of threats and of course left me a neg. feedback...but i did turn him in for the threats .All this was due to ebays new feedback rules and the buyer stated this several times that i couldn't do anything but leave a good feedback.
Hopefully it over with now.

:eek: I wouldn't be able to control myself on that one, I just know it. I would have had to tell them, don't worry about coming to me. I'll be there to you! Serious or not? I hope and pray it is over with for you. Some people can be really horrible. I'm not, really I'm not, it's just my daily personal battle, and prayer with God, that I will do my part, daily, if he will just stand with me, and help me not to have that anger in me any longer. Word's are one thing, most best not spoken, in anger, but the threat of laying hand's on anybody in anger over material things of this world, is truly going to far. Self defense though, by legal mean's is perfectly acceptable to me. I'm sorry, it's early morning, I've been up all night again, and suddenly, I find it extremely funny, at just the thought of anybody telling me, they would come here to beat me up! LOL LOL. ;)
I do not however find any humor , that someone did this to you.

[WeHaveit777]

I just read the new user agreement over at feebay. For new members this starts now and for current members this (supposedly) starts mid-August:

Violation:
"transfer your eBay account (including feedback) and User ID to another party without our consent."

So how is this going to affect our Repatoo banners? Will we still be able to use this service to promote our feedback from the bay?

bamadog_8

Your saying, if we transfer our current Feebay feedback we are in violation? So what is the penalty for that? If we aren't selling there, what is they will or can do to us now? Or do you have a link to the policy? I just did this banner thing today, well yesterday now. I do hope we haven't caused Repatoo problem's as well. Plus not being good with comp, knowlegde or typing, I have no idea, how to un create the banner. LOL. I would try though, if it harm's Repatoo. What next? :(

[WeHaveit777]

Good evening all I got a call from Ebay today to ask why I have never taken up there offer for a powersellers statis,I gave them quite a ear full but I think it was on deaf ears anyhow,I did tell them that since there new policy that all they have attracted to there site was scammers and people that complain even on new items with free shipping,of course they are going to help resolve those problems ,like I said deaf ears,I also ask about the paypal only they said it was a giltch,they are only out there to make money on the backs of good people trying to make a living,there stocks are dropping and people are leaving but they wont admit defeat,and probably never will,as time goes on people will move on and ebay will lose

You know, They put that power seller star thing on mine, and I never did accept the offer. That is a fact!

[katandron1]

Your saying, if we transfer our current Feebay feedback we are in violation? So what is the penalty for that? If we aren't selling there, what is they will or can do to us now? Or do you have a link to the policy? I just did this banner thing today, well yesterday now. I do hope we haven't caused Repatoo problem's as well. Plus not being good with comp, knowlegde or typing, I have no idea, how to un create the banner. LOL. I would try though, if it harm's Repatoo. What next? :(

I read it as transfering your e**y account to another person.
Say you wanted out and I "bought" your account, That's what the violation would be if we didn't get their approval.

I don't think that they are saying anything about Repatoo, they are a part of that system as well as all the other places that Repatoo displays feedback for. I'm not sure what these places do to have Repatoo be able to access that information, Pete from Repatoo would be able to know that though, And if the policy would affect his service to us or not.

[katandron1]

:D I totally agree, Lets do all we can , to make Webidz very successful. Anyone have any good idea's , how we can all attract buyers? And more sellers too?

What all of us have been doing is signing up for the RSS feed for our store here, you can find the thread for that here...... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=9289 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=9289) Just let Admin know where you plan on posting it.
We have a group that has started squidoo pages and put our feed there, we can link into each others squidoo pages, and the Admin also has one.
If you have a social network group, Myspace, Facebook, and various others, you can place your feed in those.
Sylvia has posted several places to list all the places that you sell and you can insert your RSS feed, you can find those links in this thread...... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12771 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12771) , and here... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12483 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12483) , and here.... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12484 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12484) .

We also suggest that you contact any buyers that you had good relationships with on e**y, and let them know you have set up shop here. They are your customers, why should that site get to keep them. Contact them through personal email and not through the sites system, we do not want our members to get into any trouble using that sites system.

We have been putting out flyers in our communities and surrounding towns advertising WeBidz as a great alternative for shopping. We submit our own store URLs to the search engines. We do this for several different reasons, to keep the cost down, and we have had some "sellers" come in and purposly sell things that are not allowed to keep WeBidz out of the search engines when Admin was submitting. You can read about that issue here .... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=8502 .

Hope all this helps and I'm sure I have forgotten some things, but others can add to this list of ways to promote WeBidz and get the buyers and sellers here.

[AVE]

Well if you can only give Positive feedback but can 'write' your own message...whats the problem?
You can still warn others politely...

Examples:
{+} Great Ebayer? Shame item never came nor got refund but what the heck? :)
{+} Fool me once....fool me twice, I think not!
{+} Buyer be AWARE!! Dont hold your breathe waiting on this one!
{+} Some therapeutic counselling may help you.

You get the idea...
I had a bad seller once that I feared getting a retaliatory neg so I gave him the {+} withsomething like this:
" Item never arrived.Thank you for Paypal Buyer Protection!.

I dont use Ebay so much anymore though as sales have been down most of the year.
Have a better day.
Ave

[Lanascountry]

Ave...Hi..we are mostly referring to how SELLERS are being treated in
this thread.. :)

[mj-trading]

Lana! Like your Juggler!!
Sounds like everyone should have left the Bay when we seen there crap starting years ago Lana

[katandron1]

I also believe that is exactly what was going on when the changes took place. The pos with the neg comment, and e**y actually started to "police" those and taking action.

[Lanascountry]

Hey MrJ and ms Kat...Look who that poor juggler is..(read to side) :D

Kat.. I think feeb has had a plan to remove small sellers (even BIG small sellers
with respect to MrJ..some of us like the strong and active members of this board
(you KNOW who you is:D) have known for a long time and took action.. I still
believe that us first to pull away from FEEB will do best in the end!! :D

[katandron1]

Ya I saw him, and you know that it's true, James sure does do alot of juggling to make the site run as smooth as possible.

Kudos to everyone making this site work, to the Admin and his staff takin care of business, and to all the forum members takin care of each other so that Admin HAS the time to take care of business.

[WeHaveit777]

Ok, I think I get it, thanks, for helping me out on that. :)

[Lanascountry]

:D To quote the old GOMER PYLE-- 'SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE'!! :D

Possible Layoffs at eBay, Golden Parachutes for Execs

Barrons cites a Wedge Partners report that "the company's business is "deteriorating" and that the company is readying layoffs that could affect 10% of the company's 15,000 employees."

If there are layoffs, it will be interesting to compare the severance packages of "regular employees" and managers with those of eBay's top executives.

Like many corporate boards, eBay's Board of Directors put into place Golden Parachutes for its top executives. It appears from SEC filings that some top execs will receive two years' target cash compensation, defined as annual base salary plus target annual incentive bonus. That "bonus" is usually 100% of salary, so it would be like getting 4 years' worth of pay if they are laid off. (President and CEO John Donahoe's target bonus is 125% of salary.)

Donahoe and Dutta's severance packages are detailed in this SEC filing.

Here's one example of a Golden Parachute. On July 16, 2008, eBay revealed in an SEC filing that the company's Chief Financial Officer Bob Swan would receive a severance package in the event of his termination without cause:

providing a cash payment equal to two years' target cash compensation (defined as annual base salary plus target annual incentive bonus) if the termination occurs within two years of the date of the severance agreement, one and one-half years' target cash compensation if the termination occurs more than two but within three years of the date of the severance agreement, and one year's target cash compensation if the termination occurs more than three years after the date of the severance agreement.

Meg Whitman and her inner circle of top executives are gone. I use that term loosely, since some, including Bill Cobb and Whitman herself, are on the payroll through the end of the year; Whitman gets office space and IT and secretarial support for 3 more years and will stay on the Board at least until June 2010. Rajiv Dutta, who retired recently, is working with his replacement Lorrie Norrington on the transition until October 2008 and will subsequently act as a consultant through the end of the year.

With layoffs reportedly looming, it now seems quite significant that Bob Kagle, the Benchmark venture capitalist who has been on the Board from the beginning, chose to step down from the Board in June.

The cynic might say Whitman would prefer any large-scale layoffs to come after election day - she and Carly Fiorina are economic advisors to Republican candidate John McCain, and bad news at eBay would not reflect well on the campaign.

Rest of the article here:
http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.pl?/comments/2008/9/1221405674.html

[magwest]

We all know about the feedback extortion, but it's not the feeback that will get you in trouble, it is the new seller rating system. Your buyer rates you from one to five stars. This is very important because if you fall below 4.5 stars in any catagory, your gone. The two that will kill any seller, power or otherwise, is the shipping costs and the shipping time. Something you have no control over, and the survey is not mandatory for the buyer, so guess who fills it out. The angry, miffed buyer that wants a refund or a rebate on something that they recieved. I am no longer an eBay seller, my shipping costs, using though I was using the ebay shipping calculator, fell to a 4.3, .2 points below the allowed 4.5. Eventhough I had a 99,4% positive feedback as a seller, I found myself suspended for thirty days. ebay is a company that is past it's prime, it has been taken over by college regurgitates that have put in place a marketing plan that is no longer compatible with the smaller sellers. My question to WEBIDZ....where is your marketing program, how about TV ads. What do you have lined up for the Holiday season, Print ads?????? I just got a cataloge from eBay in the mail. My feedback score was better than 3/4 of the listed advertisers, the difference. They were all large liquidators. Is WEBIDZ ready to compete? I want to know before I start listing the thousands of item I had on eBay. Where is your telephone support? Where is your online chat? Come on folks I want a competetive site here!

[katandron1]

Hi mag,
Admin would be able to tell you where he spends the advertising budget.

We don't have a bunch of listing fees like e**y does, so the sellers here do alot of their own promoting(I listed a lot of those ways in post #231 above). We need more sellers to do that, and get the WeBidz name out there more.

The catalog that you received, like you said was all the large liquidators, more than likely buying their products from....you guessed it...e**y. How else would an auction site be able to put together a catalog of the things that the sellers were selling.

Telephone support?...I know of a few of the sellers that have had to call Admin, or have them call him, he has a small staff that works for him, and wouldn't be able to take everyones calls for support. We have the help ticket desk that you would be able to turn in a ticket for pretty much anything that you would need.

But what I have found is, everything can pretty much be taken care of either here in the forums, or sending a private message directly to the Admin, and the ticket desk. Having a huge staff would mean having to have the money to pay the wages of those people, having to pay the wages of more people would mean imposing more costs to the sellers via higher seller fees. Do we really want that at this point in time?

I'm pretty sure that e**y when they first started up did not have the big budget that they currently have. Lana or John could shed more light on that, I wasn't around then. But no company starts out with the millions and millions it takes for years on end to promote as much as that site does now.

Can WeBidz be a competative site? Of course it can, the owners of the businesses here (the sellers) need to put some work in and do some advertising though.

I have said it time and time again, the stores here belong to the sellers, we work them, we earn the money through them, we should have to do our own promoting. If the Admin was the only one to do the promoting for our businesses, then he should be compensated for such work, and hence we go back to the higher listing fees that soooo many people are getting away from.

It's a vicious cycle to get into, more promoting by the site= higher fees. Next year the budget needs to increase for more promoting= higher fees again. And year after year after year, the circle grows.

Personally, I think that WeBidz is doing really well in competing. It is in it's second year as being ranked #3 on the top ten list of auction site. I would say not bad for a site that has only been around for 3 1/2 years on this world wide web.

[Lanascountry]

All very well said and accurate Kat..Thank you.. :)

[WeHaveit777]

What all of us have been doing is signing up for the RSS feed for our store here, you can find the thread for that here...... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=9289 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=9289) Just let Admin know where you plan on posting it.
We have a group that has started squidoo pages and put our feed there, we can link into each others squidoo pages, and the Admin also has one.
If you have a social network group, Myspace, Facebook, and various others, you can place your feed in those.
Sylvia has posted several places to list all the places that you sell and you can insert your RSS feed, you can find those links in this thread...... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12771 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12771) , and here... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12483 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12483) , and here.... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12484 (http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=12484) .

We also suggest that you contact any buyers that you had good relationships with on e**y, and let them know you have set up shop here. They are your customers, why should that site get to keep them. Contact them through personal email and not through the sites system, we do not want our members to get into any trouble using that sites system.

We have been putting out flyers in our communities and surrounding towns advertising WeBidz as a great alternative for shopping. We submit our own store URLs to the search engines. We do this for several different reasons, to keep the cost down, and we have had some "sellers" come in and purposly sell things that are not allowed to keep WeBidz out of the search engines when Admin was submitting. You can read about that issue here .... http://community.webidz.com/showthread.php?t=8502 .

Hope all this helps and I'm sure I have forgotten some things, but others can add to this list of ways to promote WeBidz and get the buyers and sellers here.

Just another thought on an allowed way to advertise webidz: Post to message boards, such as, AOL message boards. Create a signature that says: www.webidz.com The New alternative to Ebay Auctions.
It is allowed on aol. Thanks Tom.

[WeHaveit777]

We all know about the feedback extortion, but it's not the feeback that will get you in trouble, it is the new seller rating system. Your buyer rates you from one to five stars. This is very important because if you fall below 4.5 stars in any catagory, your gone. The two that will kill any seller, power or otherwise, is the shipping costs and the shipping time. Something you have no control over, and the survey is not mandatory for the buyer, so guess who fills it out. The angry, miffed buyer that wants a refund or a rebate on something that they recieved. I am no longer an eBay seller, my shipping costs, using though I was using the ebay shipping calculator, fell to a 4.3, .2 points below the allowed 4.5. Eventhough I had a 99,4% positive feedback as a seller, I found myself suspended for thirty days. ebay is a company that is past it's prime, it has been taken over by college regurgitates that have put in place a marketing plan that is no longer compatible with the smaller sellers. My question to WEBIDZ....where is your marketing program, how about TV ads. What do you have lined up for the Holiday season, Print ads?????? I just got a cataloge from eBay in the mail. My feedback score was better than 3/4 of the listed advertisers, the difference. They were all large liquidators. Is WEBIDZ ready to compete? I want to know before I start listing the thousands of item I had on eBay. Where is your telephone support? Where is your online chat? Come on folks I want a competetive site here!

Again, just a suggestion, but a free way, and allowed way to advertise Webidz, is to post to message boards, such as AOL, which is also free, Create a posting signature, that says something like this: www.webidz.com The New Ebay Auction Alternative. Thanks , Tom ;)

[WeHaveit777]

Again, just a suggestion, but a free way, and allowed way to advertise Webidz, is to post to message boards, such as AOL, which is also free, Create a posting signature, that says something like this: www.webidz.com The New Ebay Auction Alternative. Thanks , Tom ;)

Another thought is, anytime a buyer pay's you with an Ebay auction or or from another selling site, when you answer their email, from payment received , thanking them for their purchase, include a signature in the email, www.webidz.com The New Alternative to Ebay Auction's. Just a thought. As far as I know, Paypal doesn't read our response to payments received. Thanks , Tom

[rnrgiftsnmore]

Tom,

You don't need both the Repatoo badge and "Check my Rep: http://www.repatoo.com/user/Have20/ "in your signature. The badge is clickable. Here is the code to put in your signature for your store, I also have mine in my email signature. I know it works for Yahoo.com, but others have had problems. So give it a try.
Copy and paste to your signature box.
http://www.webidz.com/wb_img/wb_store_1.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/WeHaveit777)

http://www.webidz.com/wb_img/wb_store_1.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/WeHaveit777)

As for contacting your customers that have paid with paypal, try this. I downloaded my PayPal history for the past year and in that .CSV file every single email address is listed of all of my buyers who paid me through PayPal. I am sending them an email to let them know that if they come here.

Hope this helps,
Roz

[katandron1]

Very good suggestions Tom, thanks for your help in the advertising campaign to help WeBidz grow.

[Lanascountry]

I even tell folks about WEBIDZ on my foodie and Chefs boards!! :D

[WeHaveit777]

:) Your very welcome, I think they must have helped me some, because I had my first ever item bid on here. YEAH! Now if only I could just figure out how to get that banner thing in my store. :confused: http://www.webidz.com/wb_img/wb_store_1.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/WeHaveit777)
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Image: http://www.webidz.com/wb_img/wb_store_1.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/WeHaveit777)
Very good suggestions Tom, thanks for your help in the advertising campaign to help WeBidz grow. You see what I mean? I really am not very good at using a comp. I see the <> symbol, but I also see the veiw source, only when I click that, it won't do anything. Some help? Please. Heck, I can't even find my own store. LOL . Tom

[WeHaveit777]

Tom,

You don't need both the Repatoo badge and "Check my Rep: http://www.repatoo.com/user/Have20/ "in your signature. The badge is clickable. Here is the code to put in your signature for your store, I also have mine in my email signature. I know it works for Yahoo.com, but others have had problems. So give it a try.
Copy and paste to your signature box.
http://www.webidz.com/wb_img/wb_store_1.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/WeHaveit777)

http://www.webidz.com/wb_img/wb_store_1.gif (http://www.webidz.com/stores/WeHaveit777)

As for contacting your customers that have paid with paypal, try this. I downloaded my PayPal history for the past year and in that .CSV file every single email address is listed of all of my buyers who paid me through PayPal. I am sending them an email to let them know that if they come here.

Hope this helps,
RozI'll sure try the Paypal thing, I do think I can do that, but I guess I just can't get how to paste that HTML in my store, like I said, I can't even find my store! :o Maybe I don't have one, I mean I don't have the right amount of listing's up yet? One thing I noticed on these posts, it says HTML code is off, I wonder why? Thanks for your help, I'm keeping the info you posted for me. Just in case somehow I get it to work. I'm not very confident of it though. Tom